Horse of the World

Black Caviar vs. Hay List

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW6r-_OJ45Q

Can't say she hasn't faced tough competition. Would like to see them bring her to the Breeders Cup but it looks like they will settle for Hong Kong instead.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Doug, how good could Barbaro have been if they kept him on the lawn do you think? Thx.

Extremely good.

He was one of the best 2yo turf horses I ever saw run -- and because of the fact he improved with each start on dirt -- he may have been physically maturing and developing.

However, outside of Barbaro's Kentucky Derby win ... he didn't exactly achieve much on dirt...and he beat a very moderate Derby field with a perfect trip.

Barbaro was a case of what might have been.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Black Caviar vs. Hay List

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW6r-_OJ45Q

Can't say she hasn't faced tough competition. Would like to see them bring her to the Breeders Cup but it looks like they will settle for Hong Kong instead.

We don't really have a race for her, do we? The Turf Sprint doesn't exactly drip prestige.

Originally Posted by cmorioles

We don't really have a race for her, do we? The Turf Sprint doesn't exactly drip prestige.

It is a Grade 1 now. Maybe they could double the purse to entice them. Do something...at least make a legitimate attempt to get her stateside.

Best of the best. That's the whole point of the Breeders Cup. They'll do the opposite.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

We don't really have a race for her, do we? The Turf Sprint doesn't exactly drip prestige.

Don't let the BC Committee see this or they'll implement a one year BC-BC (Black Caviar) race just because they can.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

We don't really have a race for her, do we? The Turf Sprint doesn't exactly drip prestige.

Breeders Cup Sprint against the boys. Six furlongs on dirt.

Go for the title of Sprinter of the World -- that's what the Hertz Rent-A-Car guy would do ... it can't be a worse idea than hiring OJ Simpson as the company spokesman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf46hDT5SQQ

[Calzone Lord]

Here's a mythical race I posted once of some of the better performers at the peak of their form.

Would be a cool field for Gallop Racer -- or some video game like that. Swain and quite a few others did not get included in the field.

[Calzone Lord]

Lava Man would easily fit with that group on his Southern California form.

However, on his non So. Cal form, he'd barely fit with the 2nd at Presque Isle tonight.

[DaTruth]

How about Dayjur for Horse of the World - Sprint Division? He has the Euro grass credentials, and he probably would have won the Sprint had he not started jumping a shadow near the wire.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

How about Dayjur for Horse of the World - Sprint Division? He has the Euro grass credentials, and he probably would have won the Sprint had he not started jumping a shadow near the wire.

I suppose Arazi would have a case for Juvenile division.

He put Bertrando and Pine Bluff away pretty easy.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

We don't really have a race for her, do we? The Turf Sprint doesn't exactly drip prestige.

And it's on the hill this year, ugh.

[PatCummings]

What about Lonhro, Makybe Diva, Sunline? Some down under consideration?

[smartbid09]

I didn't know much about Reigh Count until I read this thread. Thank You Calzone! I never knew that he went overseas or any of that.

I love learning the history of great horses of yesteryear.

He was a heck of a horse from what I read online after you got me interested.

[Indian Charlie]

Gentlemen was a freak of nature on both turf and dirt.

Greinton kicked ass on both surfaces too.

John Henry could run a little on both.

I felt that Lady's Secret would have been a monster on turf.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

What about Lonhro, Makybe Diva, Sunline? Some down under consideration?

I doubt any of them would have handled the dirt.

Generally, you need a lot of American influence in the pedigree.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

it can't be a worse idea than hiring OJ Simpson as the company spokesman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf46hDT5SQQ

In fairness to Hertz, hindsight is always 20-20. (also see: The Naked Gun movies)

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by smartbid09

I didn't know much about Reigh Count until I read this thread. Thank You Calzone! I never knew that he went overseas or any of that.

I love learning the history of great horses of yesteryear.

He was a heck of a horse from what I read online after you got me interested.

Here is video of his 1928 Kentucky Derby win.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkySg3t5QII

Reigh Count sired triple crown winner Count Fleet.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Here's a mythical race I posted once of some of the better performers at the peak of their form.

Would be a cool field for Gallop Racer -- or some video game like that. Swain and quite a few others did not get included in the field.

Who is Caller One the rabbit for?

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Who is Caller One the rabbit for?

I was probably in the midst of a heavy caffeine and whiskey buzz when I posted that a few years ago. I don't remember.

Borel is in post #26 with RA...he'd probably pull a Denis of Cork move.

It would be a fun race to watch on a video game.

[Gaelic Storm]

2 Names from the 80's come to mind, Alysheba and Java Gold. I think both could have been top turf horses.