5/18 (PIM): B/E Susan (G2), PIM Special (G3), 5 undercard stakes

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

What is your point? I'm honestly curious. This is an excellent betting race and Pimlico should be applauded for addressing the weakness of last year's Preakness weekend Stakes. But not you. You have to make a snide comment. To what end?

Is it even worth replying? Anyone who has a problem with that field spends far more time on message boards b.itching about racing than betting and caring about racing.

[pweizer]

This is a much better card than the one Churchill produced two weeks prior.

Paul

[pmayjr]

Originally Posted by pweizer

This is a much better card than the one Churchill produced two weeks prior.

Paul

I hope you're right (I haven't looked at it too in depth). Eventhough I got killed on the Derby undercard, I thought those fields on paper were pretty damn good.

[Alan07]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Is it even worth replying? Anyone who has a problem with that field spends far more time on message boards b.itching about racing than betting and caring about racing.

That wasn't the point. This is the old William Donald Schaefer stake.

[dylbert]

Originally Posted by Alan07

That wasn't the point. This is the old William Donald Schaefer stake.

Pimlico Special has only been contested in one of last five years. Only way this race received its Grade 3 status is renaming another race. Yes, it is nice betting race. But, it is not Grade 1 version won by likes of Cigar, Skip Away, and Invasor in past years.

[booner]

Nice card. Will like to see how Agave Kiss does in the Miss Preakness.

Pimlico Special is a good betting race. Will be keeping an eye on Endorsement.....

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by booner

Nice card. Will like to see how Agave Kiss does in the Miss Preakness.

Unless Ward's horse breaks super clean, Agave Kiss is gonna be free and clear up front by daylight....

[pba1817]

I think Cease is sitting on a big effort coming into the Pimlico Special.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Alan07

That wasn't the point. This is the old William Donald Schaefer stake.

Well, it is a furlong longer.

[Merlinsky]

Any chance they can squeeze the Pimlico Special (I guess formerly known as the shorter distanced Schaefer) to a G2 for next year and bring back the Schaefer as a G3? I'd hate to just swap one out to get the other back so I'm gonna hope the horses in the field do well the rest of 2012--assuming that's what Pimlico even wants since the higher the grading, the higher the required minimum purse. You'd think they'd want it back in all it's G1 glory if they can afford it.

I've got fond memories of the Special from Strike the Gold who won it the first time I saw it on tv. He was the first horse I ever picked to win the Derby. I was a fan of all sports equine before so why I didn't watch the Derby prior to that, no idea. Of course, who can forget the initial Pimlico Special as the match up between Seabiscuit and the "18 hand" *ehem* War Admiral.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Any chance they can squeeze the Pimlico Special (I guess formerly known as the shorter distanced Schaefer) to a G2 for next year and bring back the Schaefer as a G3? I'd hate to just swap one out to get the other back so I'm gonna hope the horses in the field do well the rest of 2012--assuming that's what Pimlico even wants since the higher the grading, the higher the required minimum purse. You'd think they'd want it back in all it's G1 glory if they can afford it.

Do they really need to run the Schaefer if they can maintain the Pimlico Special's purse? Seems like it would be kind of crowded given the woes of the track and the sparseness of the older horse division.

They used to run the Pimlico Special a week before the Preakness. Ideally, it would be a stand alone event that helps kick off Preakness week, not some undercard race. As a means of promoting its popularity, it would be cool to have some sort of bonus attached to competing in both the Preakness and the Pimlico Special in consecutive years. Many Preakness alumni have done so previous (Alysheba, Bet Twice, Cryptoclearance, Summer Squall, Unbridled, Strike The Gold, Real Quiet, Concern, Free House, Best Pal, Midway Road, Skip Away, Eddington, Tejano Run, Star Standard, Brian's Time).

[Danzig]

i agree with several others, the pimlico special looks like a good race.

and to heck with the WDS-that guy was a douche. still remember when he referenced the 'sh**house eastern shore'.

[slotdirt]

I like how they honored William Donald Schaefer's 2011 death by renaming his race. First sir Barton, now William Donald Schaefer. You are on notice, Barbara Fritchie and George "General George" Washington.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I like how they honored William Donald Schaefer's 2011 death by renaming his race. First sir Barton, now William Donald Schaefer. You are on notice, Barbara Fritchie and George "General George" Washington.

You forgot the paving over of Hirsch Jacobs in favor Chick Lang.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Alan07

That wasn't the point. This is the old William Donald Schaefer stake.

Who cares? It could be called the Steve Byk Handicap for all I care. It has a larger purse and new distance a la the Pimlico Special. Oh, and most importantly, it's a really good race.