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Old 05-11-2012, 11:35 PM
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the euros are better most years at what?
and since you brought it up, regarding euros. don't they train with lasix? and as soon as they get over here, they race them on it. seems hard for them to be holier than thou when they jump at the chance to use it asap. and they'd use it at home the moment it was legalized. many push for it-and with reason.

and in australia, they remove the better bleeders after an episode, because after a second there, they can't breed. so they send them here. why do you suppose they do that? because they can run on lasix to prevent further bleeding and it's potential consequences.
This is more like an incoherent rant than an actual post. Who mentioned anything about them being holier than thou? Certainly not me. For the record, a lot of horses that ship here don't get Lasix, so they all don't jump at the chance to use it. Unfortunately, they probably should, because the performance of those not using Lasix is extremely weak, even when they don't bleed. Hmmm, wonder why that is?
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Old 05-12-2012, 09:25 AM
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This is more like an incoherent rant than an actual post. Who mentioned anything about them being holier than thou? Certainly not me. For the record, a lot of horses that ship here don't get Lasix, so they all don't jump at the chance to use it. Unfortunately, they probably should, because the performance of those not using Lasix is extremely weak, even when they don't bleed. Hmmm, wonder why that is?
i mentioned them being holier than thou. any time it comes up with euro trainers they make their statements-without talking about using it themselves.

as for everything in your post from 'for the record' on, do you have stats to show all this, or is it your perception from events?

also, i guess you didn't notice the stat about new york racers and bleeding from the nostrils dropping by 80%?

at any rate, we will have to just agree to disagree. no point in continuing, the 'zealots' ( ) on either side won't change their minds i'm sure.
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