Tuesday primaries

[Riot]

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Turnout for the recall primary election broke 30 percent, the highest for a partisan primary in Wisconsin in 60 years.

More than 1.3 million people cast ballots Tuesday, which equates to 30.2 percent of eligible voters statewide. Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett won a four-way race for the Democratic nomination, while Republican Gov. Scott Walker easily overcame token opposition on the GOP side.

About 670,000 votes were cast for one of the Democratic candidates, with Barrett getting about 387,000 votes. About 646,000 votes were cast on the Republican side.

This is the first gubernatorial recall election in Wisconsin history so there are no comparable primaries with which to compare it. However, the previous high turnout for a regular fall primary was 38.9 percent in 1952 based on records dating to 1948.

http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/lates...ks-30-percent/

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Turnout for the recall primary election broke 30 percent, the highest for a partisan primary in Wisconsin in 60 years.

More than 1.3 million people cast ballots Tuesday, which equates to 30.2 percent of eligible voters statewide. Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett won a four-way race for the Democratic nomination, while Republican Gov. Scott Walker easily overcame token opposition on the GOP side.

About 670,000 votes were cast for one of the Democratic candidates, with Barrett getting about 387,000 votes. About 646,000 votes were cast on the Republican side.

This is the first gubernatorial recall election in Wisconsin history so there are no comparable primaries with which to compare it. However, the previous high turnout for a regular fall primary was 38.9 percent in 1952 based on records dating to 1948.

http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/lates...ks-30-percent/

The guy running against Walker received 19,920 votes so cross over from the democrats did not really exist.

Barrett is the Mayor of Milwaukee with the most job losses in the state coming from milwaukee and the highest unemployment by 2% as compared to the rest of the state. He has never held to a single campaign promise and used Walker's reforms to help save Milwaukee $. He has failed terribly as a mayor and has NEVER stood his ground for anything. Glad to see that the democrats think he is qualified to run the state seeing that he has been so good for Milwaukee. Add up Falk and Barrett's votes they are less than Walker votes when many republicans did not take time to vote or crossed over and voted for Falk. If this recall was so important and was really about Collective bargaining then those people that signed the recall petition would have showed up and showed their support. They did not. Now the fun begins and the truth about Tom Barrett comes out again.

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Originally Posted by wiphan

Walker fixed it. Let's not Falk it up. We couldn't Barrett.

[Riot]

"Walker fixed it"

Fixed what? Not jobs: Wisconsin had worst in the country private sector numbers, 23,000 loss. Not the budget: he had to steal money to try and cover his losses. Not unions: they gave him everything he asked for as far as concessions, he busted them anyway in accordance with what ALEC and the RGA told him to do.

Walker is a mouthpiece and a short-leashed dog for his corporate owners. They are pouring millions in from out of state to try and keep him in office. Walker has spent more time out of state raising money than in it.

Good luck! May the best man win - even if the GOP attempt to restrict voting access was overturned in court.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

"Walker fixed it"

Fixed what? Not jobs: Wisconsin had worst in the country private sector numbers, 23,000 loss. Not the budget: he had to steal money to try and cover his losses. Not unions: they gave him everything he asked for as far as concessions, he busted them anyway in accordance with what ALEC and the RGA told him to do.

Walker is a mouthpiece and a short-leashed dog for his corporate owners. They are pouring millions in from out of state to try and keep him in office. Walker has spent more time out of state raising money than in it.

Good luck! May the best man win - even if the GOP attempt to restrict voting access was overturned in court.

How much money has been saved by the actions that governor walker has taken? What does the budget look like compared to when Doyle was in office? Where are the job losses in the state? Are they in Milwaukee where the democratic candidate has been Mayor? What has Barrett done to bring jobs or business to Milwaukee (oh yeah he wants a street car that no one else wants)? How much time has Walker had in office and how has the political climate been with all the crying by the democrats? If you were a business owner would you bring jobs to WI based on the amount of political BS that has been going on in the state or would you wait until it all shakes out? Democrats complain about jobs losses, but they have done everything they can to create more job losses? Barrett saved Milwaukee $25 million by using the reforms that governor Walker gave him. Barrett also complained that Walker didn't go far enough with the collective bargaining by excluding the police and fire unions.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

How much money has been saved by the actions that governor walker has taken? What does the budget look like compared to when Doyle was in office? Where are the job losses in the state? Are they in Milwaukee where the democratic candidate has been Mayor? What has Barrett done to bring jobs or business to Milwaukee (oh yeah he wants a street car that no one else wants)? How much time has Walker had in office and how has the political climate been with all the crying by the democrats? If you were a business owner would you bring jobs to WI based on the amount of political BS that has been going on in the state or would you wait until it all shakes out? Democrats complain about jobs losses, but they have done everything they can to create more job losses? Barrett saved Milwaukee $25 million by using the reforms that governor Walker gave him. Barrett also complained that Walker didn't go far enough with the collective bargaining by excluding the police and fire unions.

Barrett has already lost to Walker. The citizens have seen what Walker has done, and will judge accordingly. Enough citizens have chosen the chance to have a do-over on the last election, so that it is happening.

And more recalls, aside from the ones that already happened, are up for vote.

We'll know in 4 weeks. 1,316,000 people voted in the primary, 670,000 for Dems, 646,000 for Republicans. The GOP has to make up 24,000 votes to catch up to the Dems and tie. Turnout will matter.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Barrett has already lost to Walker. The citizens have seen what Walker has done, and will judge accordingly. Enough citizens have chosen the chance to have a do-over on the last election, so that it is happening.

And more recalls, aside from the ones that already happened, are up for vote.

We'll know in 4 weeks.

ok, I get it now. Thanks for clarifying. Let's not let the actual facts get in the way the discussion.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

"Walker fixed it"

Fixed what? Not jobs: Wisconsin had worst in the country private sector numbers, 23,000 loss. Not the budget: he had to steal money to try and cover his losses. Not unions: they gave him everything he asked for as far as concessions, he busted them anyway in accordance with what ALEC and the RGA told him to do.

Walker is a mouthpiece and a short-leashed dog for his corporate owners. They are pouring millions in from out of state to try and keep him in office. Walker has spent more time out of state raising money than in it.

Good luck! May the best man win - even if the GOP attempt to restrict voting access was overturned in court.

Now about those job numbers

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...151655365.html

Keep trying to spin it any way you want. Try to attack Walker, but the REAL NUMBERS Don't LIE!

Oh yeah the DNC told Barrett that they are not sending any money his way.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Now about those job numbers

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...151655365.html

Keep trying to spin it any way you want. Try to attack Walker, but the REAL NUMBERS Don't LIE!

Oh yeah the DNC told Barrett that they are not sending any money his way.

He won't need it, he has Riot and the Unions to help him.
Stop using math, actual math has no place in these discussions, only theoretical math is welcome here mouth breather!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Now about those job numbers

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...151655365.html

It's nice that Walker found an outlier, a measure not used normally, to try and say he created jobs. He's pretty desperate, especially with the John Doe investigation about felonies in his office ongoing, and his budget disaster.

The way we always and usually measure jobs says differently, of course. From your article:

State officials said they show a gain of 23,321 jobs (public and private) between December 2010 and December 2011, which represents Gov. Scott Walker's first full year in office.

That stands in sharp contrast to a commonly used and widely reported monthly jobs measure, the Current Employment Survey, which earlier this year showed an estimated loss of 33,900 jobs in Wisconsin for the same 12-month period.

Wiphan wrote: Keep trying to spin it any way you want. Try to attack Walker, but the REAL NUMBERS Don't LIE!

That's right. The "real" numbers, that every state uses, that Walker used to use before last year turned out so badly, says Wisconsin was the worse job creation state in the country last year.

Oh yeah the DNC told Barrett that they are not sending any money his way.

Yeah, I read that. They asked for a half-million dollars. There was some fund-raising thing the last two days in response that raised over 250K, I know; and a teachers union just gave that half-million yesterday to make it up.

DNC is coming to Wisconsin to help GOTV, unknown if they will bring their checkbook. It is difficult, as Walker is using virtually 100% of "outside money" to try and hold his seat. He's ahead by 5 points at worse from the polling I've seen, so the Dems have a big task for voter turnout. It helps for the GOP that the GOP obstruction to delay the election until after the universities are dismissed worked. Their attempted obstruction of voter ID at the polls has been overturned by the courts, so that's a GOP loss and a Dem-Independent gain.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

It's nice that Walker found an outlier, a measure not used normally, to try and say he created jobs. He's pretty desperate, especially with the John Doe investigation about felonies in his office ongoing, and his budget disaster.

The way we always and usually measure jobs says differently, of course. From your article:





That's right. The "real" numbers, that every state uses, that Walker used to use before last year turned out so badly, says Wisconsin was the worse job creation state in the country last year.



Yeah, I read that. They asked for a half-million dollars. There was some fund-raising thing the last two days in response that raised over 250K, I know; and a teachers union just gave that half-million yesterday to make it up.

DNC is coming to Wisconsin to help GOTV, unknown if they will bring their checkbook. It is difficult, as Walker is using virtually 100% of "outside money" to try and hold his seat.

you are so predictable it is hilarious....

Yeah a survey of a small portion of employers is far better than actual payroll tax records..... (remember the source of the story, a very bias liberal newspaper)

In Wisconsin under governor Walker the 3rd grade test scores are substantially better than when Govenor Doyle was in office so now we actually can do Math in our state.