2011-2012 NHL playoff thread.

[slotdirt]

Why is that ridiculous? I thought it was deserved.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Why is that ridiculous? I thought it was deserved.

I edited the post. Just no consistency by Shannahan, that's the ridiculous part.

Here's the hit by Ovechkin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8myT-qqM0TI

[slotdirt]

The only thing I'd say about the Ovechkin hit is that Girardi is looking Ovechkin square in the eyes when Ovechkin hits him. Ovechkin is just one big dude. Also, much more of a body check than the Giroux play.

But yes, Shanahan/NHL has been incredibly inconsistent this year. I think the issue is that his boss is Bettman and Bettman's bosses are the owners, and while suspending guys for infractions is what he's supposed to be doing, it's got to be difficult to do that with the dynamics of the situation (especially in the playoffs).

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

The only thing I'd say about the Ovechkin hit is that Girardi is looking Ovechkin square in the eyes when Ovechkin hits him. Ovechkin is just one big dude. Also, much more of a body check than the Giroux play.

But yes, Shanahan/NHL has been incredibly inconsistent this year. I think the issue is that his boss is Bettman and Bettman's bosses are the owners, and while suspending guys for infractions is what he's supposed to be doing, it's got to be difficult to do that with the dynamics of the situation (especially in the playoffs).

But if you look, Ovie actually goes to make the hit versus playing the loose puck (which is where I believe Girardi is looking). Like I said, the fact that Giroux did get suspended (which was warrented) and Ovie didn't even get called into the principal's office is the thing that makes my head shake.

[Danzig]

giroux deserved a game-it was blatant elbow directed at the head.
ovie? no, i don't think it did warrant a look. and knowing how shannie likes to review, i'm sure he'd have done something if it was called for.

[slotdirt]

Shea Weber didn't get called into the principal's office for slamming a guy's head into the turnbuckle; why would it be surprising that Ovechkin didn't get a call for a 93.7 percent legal check?

Again though, completely agree on the lack of consistency. I did think Giroux was much more blatant than Ovechkin though.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Shea Weber didn't get called into the principal's office for slamming a guy's head into the turnbuckle; why would it be surprising that Ovechkin didn't get a call for a 93.7 percent legal check?

Again though, completely agree on the lack of consistency. I did think Giroux was much more blatant than Ovechkin though.

Weber had a hearing and was fined, just not suspended.
They say past hits impact the punishment. Giroux has no history and Ovechkin has had a number of questionable hits. Shanahan has a tough job but he sucks at it.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

But if you look, Ovie actually goes to make the hit versus playing the loose puck (which is where I believe Girardi is looking). Like I said, the fact that Giroux did get suspended (which was warrented) and Ovie didn't even get called into the principal's office is the thing that makes my head shake.

I haven't yet nailed down why but it seems like the NHL is against the idea of the Rangers moving on. Caps have had late PP's in any game that is tied or they are trailing. The fact that this didn't get a second look is just another point.

[slotdirt]

I don't believe Weber actually had an official disciplinary hearing, which I don't believe is necessary via the CBA to fine a guy. I think Shanny just called and said "don't do that again" and that was the extent of the "hearing."

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I haven't yet nailed down why but it seems like the NHL is against the idea of the Rangers moving on. Caps have had late PP's in any game that is tied or they are trailing. The fact that this didn't get a second look is just another point.

I can't figure it out either. It can't be Shanahan, who played here. Colin Cambell? Unlikely, it's not Daly, Bettmans right hand man, as I heard him say he grew up a Ranger fan. So that leaves only Bettman himself.
One or two horrible calls/non calls against the Rangers can be written off as coincidence, but it's gone far beyond that IMO.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by golfer

I can't figure it out either. It can't be Shanahan, who played here. Colin Cambell? Unlikely, it's not Daly, Bettmans right hand man, as I heard him say he grew up a Ranger fan. So that leaves only Bettman himself.
One or two horrible calls/non calls against the Rangers can be written off as coincidence, but it's gone far beyond that IMO.

For me it comes down to the timing AND the awfulness of the calls. Lets hope for a blowout this evening.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I haven't yet nailed down why but it seems like the NHL is against the idea of the Rangers moving on. Caps have had late PP's in any game that is tied or they are trailing. The fact that this didn't get a second look is just another point.

I don't believe that there's a conspiracy theory against the Rangers, if anything you would think the opposite and the NHL would want them to go far.
I'm just confused about the inconstistency of Mr. Shannahan's office. I really believe that the Ovie hit was borderline, but if he follows the path that he has taken during the post season so far, there should have at least been a hearing.

[MaTH716]

Un-Belieeeeeeeevable.......................

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I haven't yet nailed down why but it seems like the NHL is against the idea of the Rangers moving on. Caps have had late PP's in any game that is tied or they are trailing. The fact that this didn't get a second look is just another point.

in the marathon triple ot game the other night, the rangers were the ones with two pp's in two ot periods. caps had none.

[Danzig]

missed watching the game last night, which is probably a good thing. had a lions club fundraiser-what poor timing!
anyway, hopefully we can even the series in d.c. tomorrow.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Danzig

in the marathon triple ot game the other night, the rangers were the ones with two pp's in two ot periods. caps had none.

No but they did get one with 3 mins left in regulation...again.