Bodemeister better version of Congaree.

[KirisClown]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Congaree toyed with Monarchos in the Wood Memorial.

Obviously the Derby pace in 2001 worked to the benefit of runaway Derby winner Monarchos and the detriment of Congaree...who ran a sensational 3rd.

He was a good one.

If only his entire career could have been contested at Aqueduct..

As good as he was, he burnt an enormous amount of money in his career.. he went down a lot of times at under even money. One of my favorite examples.. www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM7wqfvZ9SM

[Travis Stone]

Bodemeister ran huge today, but he was toast at the eighth pole. The fact he held for second as gamely as he did shows he has tremendous talent but also that he is lengths the best in this crop as of now.

[NTamm1215]

Congaree was within range of an extremely fast pace, made a 5 wide move to take over the lead outside the 1/4 pole, completely buried the other pacesetters and stalkers (including Point Given) then grudgingly gave way for second.

Bodemeister ran an excellent race today. Congaree's Derby was better.

Congaree was a GI winner at 7,8,9, and 10 furlongs and the only other horse in the 21st century to do that is Ghostzapper. While he had issues with being consistent, he was an immensely talented racehorse. To say that after five races Bodemeister is better is very silly.

[cal828]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Congaree was within range of an extremely fast pace, made a 5 wide move to take over the lead outside the 1/4 pole, completely buried the other pacesetters and stalkers (including Point Given) then grudgingly gave way for second.

Bodemeister ran an excellent race today. Congaree's Derby was better.

Congaree was a GI winner at 7,8,9, and 10 furlongs and the only other horse in the 21st century to do that is Ghostzapper. While he had issues with being consistent, he was an immensely talented racehorse. To say that after five races Bodemeister is better is very silly.

Congaree was 3rd. Invisible Ink was 2nd.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by cal828

Congaree was 3rd. Invisible Ink was 2nd.

Right, that's why I said grudgingly gave way for 2nd.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Right, that's why I said grudgingly gave way for 2nd.

Oddly worded, but correct I suppose.

Nick wins here.

[justindew]

Given his tough campaign (by today's standards), Pioneerof The Nile's dud in the Preakness, and the fact that the passed the Preakness with Nehro last year, I'd say Bodemeister is pretty unlikely to run in two weeks.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by justindew

Given his tough campaign (by today's standards), Pioneerof The Nile's dud in the Preakness, and the fact that the passed the Preakness with Nehro last year, I'd say Bodemeister is pretty unlikely to run in two weeks.

Someone said he was staying at CD for Preakness prep earlier... I think he's going.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by justindew

Given his tough campaign (by today's standards), Pioneerof The Nile's dud in the Preakness, and the fact that the passed the Preakness with Nehro last year, I'd say Bodemeister is pretty unlikely to run in two weeks.

Pioneerof the Nile ran the worst 2nd place finish in the Derby in maybe decades. He was blown off the track by Mine That Bird and won a staggering 3-way photo for 2nd over immortals Musket Man and Papa Clem.

What does he have to do with anything?

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by justindew

Given his tough campaign (by today's standards), Pioneerof The Nile's dud in the Preakness, and the fact that the passed the Preakness with Nehro last year, I'd say Bodemeister is pretty unlikely to run in two weeks.

You don't think Baffert will be able to reason with Zayat?

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by KirisClown

If only his entire career could have been contested at Aqueduct..

As good as he was, he burnt an enormous amount of money in his career.. he went down a lot of times at under even money. One of my favorite examples.. www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM7wqfvZ9SM

He did come out of that race with a reported injury a few days later.