Speaking of things that will proably eventually kill you...

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Are you still in Virginia?

Instead of getting ripped off at WF, why not check that eatwild website and form relationships directly with the producer? It's a much better experience, and certainly much cheaper.

Every year I get a small group of friends together and buy an entire cow/steer. Usually either Angus or Hereford breed. By the time all is said and done, I'm paying about 4.50 to 5.00 a lb (meat, slaughter, butchering, packaging), and that's for everything! From ground and stew meat up to porterhouse, ribeye and more.

It's probably more where you live, but if you learn to look for farmers that raise food, you'd be surprised what you can come up with.

I LOVE stopping at some house/farm that has cows grazing on their property, and shooting the shiit with the farmer. I've made some great connections that way.

Anyways, get yourself a drop down chest style freezer, organize a small buying group and enjoy great and affordable meat all year long.

You'd be surprised how little space it takes up too. You can get about 25 lbs of frozen meat into one of those old style paper shopping bags you used to get at the super market.

About the only thing I've found decent in Virginia is that there are some really great farms that raise their cattle and chickens by pasture and free-range (one of them was that guy in Food, Inc. http://www.relayfoods.com/Catalog?ve...=PFR&ref=thumb). I'm just really bad at planning my groceries ahead of time...

There is a company that started up in the Richmond/Charlottesville area that seems interesting -- they are trying to become the one source where the local farms can sell their foods and people can either pick them up at one place or have them delivered. http://www.relayfoods.com/About/Overview

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

About the only thing I've found decent in Virginia is that there are some really great farms that raise their cattle and chickens by pasture and free-range (one of them was that guy in Food, Inc. http://www.relayfoods.com/Catalog?ve...=PFR&ref=thumb). I'm just really bad at planning my groceries ahead of time...

There is a company that started up in the Richmond/Charlottesville area that seems interesting -- they are trying to become the one source where the local farms can sell their foods and people can either pick them up at one place or have them delivered. http://www.relayfoods.com/About/Overview

Grocery shopping for me is pretty easy. I'm all about simplicity.

My typical week of food consists of venison I got myself, local pork, local beef and seafood. Lately I've been getting super fresh scallops for $3.95 a pound, mussels for $2.50 a pound, oysters from 42 to 65 cents each, monkfish, sockeye salmon from Alaska, etc, at least three times a week. Of all of that, only the sockeye is not local. OH, I still have that wild shrimp in the freezer, that I paid $1 a pound for.

I go to the supermarket for bananas. Gotta have my cheap potassium.

I get raw goat milk and chicken eggs down the street, but now that I have geese, ducks and chickens, it won't be too long before I never have to buy eggs.

Veggies? I think you get more bang for your buck, both caloric and nutrient wise, from good meat, but when I want veggies, I go to the farmers market, or join a CSA.

It's pretty easy!!!!

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Grocery shopping for me is pretty easy. I'm all about simplicity.

My typical week of food consists of venison I got myself, local pork, local beef and seafood. Lately I've been getting super fresh scallops for $3.95 a pound, mussels for $2.50 a pound, oysters from 42 to 65 cents each, monkfish, sockeye salmon from Alaska, etc, at least three times a week. Of all of that, only the sockeye is not local. OH, I still have that wild shrimp in the freezer, that I paid $1 a pound for.

I go to the supermarket for bananas. Gotta have my cheap potassium.

I get raw goat milk and chicken eggs down the street, but now that I have geese, ducks and chickens, it won't be too long before I never have to buy eggs.

Veggies? I think you get more bang for your buck, both caloric and nutrient wise, from good meat, but when I want veggies, I go to the farmers market, or join a CSA.

It's pretty easy!!!!

I love scallops!!! I do the banana thing too. Do you eat any kind of wheat?

I read in one of those Natural Health magazines a few months ago that Maine was one of the best states about eating local. ME, along with CA and NH, have great companies for cosmetics/personal care too.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I love scallops!!! I do the banana thing too. Do you eat any kind of wheat?

I read in one of those Natural Health magazines a few months ago that Maine was one of the best states about eating local. ME, along with CA and NH, have great companies for cosmetics/personal care too.

Yeah, I make my own bread using unbleached, unbromated (horrible stuff, bromine) organic wheat.

I don't eat tons of it. Most grain I eat is either quinoa or millet.

I've been phenomenally lucky that the two states I've lived in, and the state I work in, are ME, CA and NH.

NH is trying to destroy itself in this area though.

There is a goat farm in NH that makes great goat milk soap, and other products, that I like to shop at. They ship too, if you are interested.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I love scallops!!! I do the banana thing too. Do you eat any kind of wheat?

I read in one of those Natural Health magazines a few months ago that Maine was one of the best states about eating local. ME, along with CA and NH, have great companies for cosmetics/personal care too.

Oh yeah, if you ever go visit your sistah in Maine, I can hook you up with great seafood sources. Scallops at 3.95 is insane.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Oh yeah, if you ever go visit your sistah in Maine, I can hook you up with great seafood sources. Scallops at 3.95 is insane.

She already left! She's such a weirdo she didn't like it.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

She already left! She's such a weirdo she didn't like it.

Woah, that was quick. Did you ever get to visit her?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Woah, that was quick. Did you ever get to visit her?

Nope.

Regarding your post above -- if you just look at most vegitarians, there skin and hair are often dull and a sign that they are missing vital nutrients in their diet. The same can be said of those eating highly processed meals...

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I love scallops!!! I do the banana thing too. Do you eat any kind of wheat?

I read in one of those Natural Health magazines a few months ago that Maine was one of the best states about eating local. ME, along with CA and NH, have great companies for cosmetics/personal care too.

Maine and NH are like Colorado with rain. Two of the better places for food and people in the USA.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Maine and NH are like Colorado with rain. Two of the better places for food and people in the USA.

Maine and Colorado are better than NH because it's relatively easy to get permits to use herbal remedies.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Maine and Colorado are better than NH because it's relatively easy to get permits to use herbal remedies.

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