The Classic

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

About the competition, maybe it does suck if you look at it in a historical context. There just doesn't seem to be a great deal of depth or quality to the older handicap ranks anymore. I guess that part doesn't bother me so much, I have just accepted the horses we have as a fact of life.

As far as your last point, hey I've already been there, glad you are now joining me. I know you have already said you were wrong about Invasor but remember you recently called him a fraud. Now you want to put him on the pedestal with Bernardini. That's fine. I give you credit for admitting it. I have for a long time considered both of these horses as the best ones running here today and knew that it would be a close race.

In my view a combination of things occurred, Bernardini was over-rated and Invasor underated. So Bernardini drops a bit and Invasor goes up a bit and we find the truth which is that they're a couple of really nice horses, not separated by much.

Imagine what it would do for racing if both of these horses were to campaign next year!! I know it won't happen, but just imagine how thrilling it would be to follow them marching towards a possible rematch in the Classic.
I know, I know, I'm a dreamer.

I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. In a sport like this, where u are successful if u can win at a 35% rate, it still means u will be wrong at a 65% rate. That's a lot of wrong. This sport humbles u and u see different things in different races. I did call Invasor a fraud. If he could talk, he'd call me stupid. My only thing is that I think it's wrong to take Bernardini down (and I'm not saying u are) because he got beaten by another really good horse. As I said before, it happens. Four year old Slew beat 3yo Affirmed then the next year, 4yo Affirmed beat 3yo Spectacular Bid.

[Danzig]

true about those older beating their three year old comp...but invasor only turned four in july, being from the southern hemisphere. he and bernardini really aren't that far apart age wise...it's why they ran invasor in dubai earlier, because he still qualified as a three year old according to their rules.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. In a sport like this, where u are successful if u can win at a 35% rate, it still means u will be wrong at a 65% rate. That's a lot of wrong. This sport humbles u and u see different things in different races. I did call Invasor a fraud. If he could talk, he'd call me stupid. My only thing is that I think it's wrong to take Bernardini down (and I'm not saying u are) because he got beaten by another really good horse. As I said before, it happens. Four year old Slew beat 3yo Affirmed then the next year, 4yo Affirmed beat 3yo Spectacular Bid.

I know, some people act like they're never wrong on this stuff when the truth is all of us are wrong the majority of the time. Indeed its a humbling endeavor.