Weekend Stakes Beyers

[Kasept]

Alternation 97

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Alternation 97

Which means Bodemeister will be 108.

[ADJMK]

So after a smashing performance like that does that make him a cinch for the Derby just like Bellamy Road was?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by ADJMK

So after a smashing performance like that does that make him a cinch for the Derby just like Bellamy Road was?

I don't think they are all that similar at all.

[Calzone Lord]

Highest last out Beyer entering the Kentucky Derby:

2012: Bodemeister
2011: Archarcharch
2010: Devil May Care - Sidney's Candy (tie) <Eskendreya injured>
2009: Dunkirk <I Want Revenge SCR> and <Quality Road injured>
2008: Big Brown ($6.80)
2007: Curlin
2006: Sinister Minister
2005: Bellamy Road
2004: The Cliff's Edge
2003: Empire Maker
2002: War Emblem ($43.00)
2001: Millennium Wind
2000: Fusaichi Pegasus ($7.20)
1999: Charismatic ($64.60) - General Challenge (tie)
1998: Indian Charlie
1997: Silver Charm ($10.00) - Free House (tie)
1996: Skip Away
1995: Serena's Song
1994: Holy Bull
1993: Rockamundo
1992: Pine Bluff - Lil E Tee ($35.60) (tie)

Top last-out figure Derby horses who entered the race with less than five career starts:

Big Brown (3)
Curlin (3)
Dunkirk (3) <I Want Revenge SCR> and <Quality Road injured>
Bodemeister (4)
Indian Charlie (4)

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Highest last out Beyer entering the Kentucky Derby:

2012: Bodemeister
2011: Archarcharch
2010: Devil May Care - Sidney's Candy (tie) <Eskendreya injured>
2009: Dunkirk <I Want Revenge SCR> and <Quality Road injured>
2008: Big Brown ($6.80)
2007: Curlin
2006: Sinister Minister
2005: Bellamy Road
2004: The Cliff's Edge
2003: Empire Maker
2002: War Emblem ($43.00)
2001: Millennium Wind
2000: Fusaichi Pegasus ($7.20)
1999: Charismatic ($64.60) - General Challenge (tie)
1998: Indian Charlie
1997: Silver Charm ($10.00) - Free House (tie)
1996: Skip Away
1995: Serena's Song
1994: Holy Bull
1993: Rockamundo
1992: Pine Bluff - Lil E Tee ($35.60) (tie)

Top last-out figure Derby horses who entered the race with less than five career starts:

Big Brown (3)
Curlin (3)
Dunkirk (3) <I Want Revenge SCR> and <Quality Road injured>
Bodemeister (4)
Indian Charlie (4)

So for 20 years since Beyer went mainstream, if you take 20 last out highest + 3 ties, 23 horses x $2 = $46 invested and 6 winners with a return of $167. Who says Beyers aren't the way to go?

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

So for 20 years since Beyer went mainstream, if you take 20 last out highest + 3 ties, 23 horses x $2 = $46 invested and 6 winners with a return of $167. Who says Beyers aren't the way to go?

The extremely profitable success of a last-out top figure horses in the Derby is skewed because of War Emblem and Charismatic...both were big upset winners of super-fast run minor preps in their final Derby start.

War Emblem freaked in the Illi Derby and Charismatic freaked in the Lexington...both were ignored in the Derby betting because they looked like one-race wonders and because the one big race was in a minor Derby prep.