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![]() I'm starting to think that there must be something in the evidence not yet made public that weighs heavily on the side of this prosecutor. Would make sense, too, and would kind of justify the original conclusion 45 days ago not to arrest Z because the evidence wasn't available then.
This late-emerging evidence, I believe, has to do with either: 1. The gunshot wound that took Trayvon out. Could it possibly have been fired from other than close range? Obviously, that crushes Z's case. 2. The voice analysis on the 911 tapes. Was that Z or Trayvon yelling? |
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![]() I'm sure you guys are all familiar with the famous Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz. Here is his opinion on the charges filed in the Trayvon Martin case:
“Most affidavits of probable cause are very thin. This is so thin that it won’t make it past a judge on a second degree murder charge,” Dershowitz said. “There’s simply nothing in there that would justify second degree murder." He goes on to call the arrest affidavit "Irresponsible and unethical". Here is the interview: http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2...unethical.html Last edited by Rupert Pupkin : 04-13-2012 at 02:43 AM. |
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![]() Typical that a few libs on the board are praising the prosecutor.
You're f.ucking dumb. Real, real dumb. I feel sorry for Pupkin having to reply to your drivel. It's akin to trying to teach a chimp how to drive. |
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There are careers to be made here and I am sure that the special prosecutor is chomping at the bit for her 15 minutes in the limelight. This is an incredibly uninformed statement and clearly said by someone who actually spends little or no time in criminal courtrooms. The jury system is the best protection American citizens have. Without it we would be a police state. You have the stones to criticize others for stepping into what you claim is your expertise, but have no issue stating your uniformed opinions within the expertise of others. The more I read your nonsense (and I try to avoid it as much as possible, but since every other post in this section is yours, it is impossible to avoid), the more it becomes clear to me that hypocrites like you and those that think with your warped logic, like your god Obama, are truly the problem with this country today. People like you are trying to make us a third world country. Sadly, this is mostly true in reality. A prosecutor's job is supposed to be to seek justice. The reality is that they take a win at all costs attidute often regardless of the true facts of the case and whether justice is really being served. Some of the burying of exculpatory evidence that I have seen by prosecutors over my almost 20 years of criminal practice is astonishing. But when Judges don't impose strict penalties when it occurs, and more often than not no penalty, and prosecutors have absolute immunity from being sued and being held accountable, it will continue to occur. |
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![]() probably. and they can instruct juries to consider lesser crimes. hell, the state and the defense attorney can come up with a plea at any time during the proceedings.
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A scheme that is often used in New York is to take a policy that any plea bargain that involves a reduction in the charges must be done prior to the prosecutor presenting the case to a Grand Jury. Since a defendant has absolutely no right to discovery in New York prior to being indicted by a Grand Jury, prosecutors often intimate that their case is much stronger than it really is without actually allowing me to see the evidence they have. They are permitted to reduce (or increase) the level of charges in New York any time prior to trial. And yes, I often get threats that if my client does not take the plea bargain today, they will go for the maximum on charges with suggestions of evidence to back it up only to see them reduce the charges often below the level of the plea bargain offer if my client rejects it. |
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![]() i agree with you, point, and with tim-they always go for the maximum they feel they can get. it's what cost the state a successful prosecution of casey anthony, as it was the only charge they sought. had they allowed finding of a lesser charge, i believe she'd have gotten a guilty-perhaps for involuntary manslaughter.
i'm afraid this case has gotten so muddied in the press that a successful prosecution is next to impossible. finding an untainted jury pool will be difficult at best. it's why i mentioned a plea deal-the state ought to seek one, and zimmerman and his attorney might agree that they would all be better served if they can do that. however, at this point zimmerman might feel he can be completely cleared. his lawyer had mentioned a possibility of a plea deal, but said he still had plenty of things to look over before he'd think any further about it. i'm figuring the family did the right thing in pushing this, as i don't feel the case is a cut and dried deal based on the stand your ground law. however, the same thing that brought about a charge could negate any trial, because the same press who shed light on the case has gone completely overboard with it now. i read zimmerman is receiving death threats-i always find that appalling. people are outraged over a murder, so they want to commit one. how in the hell does that make sense?
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Yeah - it could be that the prosecutor will accept a lesser charge. It could be the prosecutor goes whole hog for a 2nd degree charge. It could be that Zimmerman is found innocent by a jury. It could be the case never gets to trial and a plea is taken. Quote:
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You don't like what I post, you don't like my political views, you don't like my opinions, stop throwing out ridiculous accusations about what you imagine I think, and stick your head back up your azz and put me on ignore, rocket scientist. I don't have to suffer your moronic, out-of-nowhere personal attacks. Guess what? Other people don't agree with you. Welcome to f.u.c.k.i.n.g. adulthood. Good luck, you're not dealing with it well.
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P.S. - I obviously don't know how to quote those sectionally, but my responses to Riots accusations are in red. |
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Yeah - I don't take crap personal attacks from idiots like you. Please - stop whining about it when you are confronted for it. If you can't talk here about the Zimmerman case without personally insulting and attacking other posters, I suggest you go away and sit with the children at the little table.
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