When "Neighborhood Watch" Gets Out of Hand

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by jms62

Wow gives me comfort that our president convicts Zimmerman without a trial.

Flashback: "The Cambridge Police acted stupidly..."

This is not the first time the president convicted someone in advance of any formal proceedings.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Flashback: "The Cambridge Police acted stupidly..."

This is not the first time the president convicted someone in advance of any formal proceedings.

He didn't do that. Why are you commenting on something you clearly didn't even listen to? Stop it.

[Riot]

Hardly the nonsense some are pretending Obama said. Ridiculous.

President Obama: Trayvon Martin case a ‘tragedy’
By Lesley Clark
lclark@mcclatchydc.com

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama spoke out Friday on the Trayvon Martin shooting for the first time, calling the incident a “tragedy” and invoking his own children.

“I can only imagine what these parents are going through,” the president said, adding that he couldn’t help but think about his daughters. “I think every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this.

“My main message is to the parents of Trayvon Martin,” he added. “If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon. I think they are right to expect that all of us as Americans are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves and we’re going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened.”

The president said he was pleased to hear that Florida Gov. Rick Scott has appointed a task force to look into the incident.

“I think all of us have to do some soul searching to figure out how does something like this happen,”

Noting that his attorney general is looking into the case, the president prefaced his remarks by saying it was important he was not “impairing any investigation that’s taking place right now.”

Obama’s remarks came as he stood in the Rose Garden to introduce his new choice for the president of the World Bank.

They were his first remarks on the incident. The White House earlier in the week noted it was a “local” event.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...#storylink=cpy

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Riot

Hardly the nonsense some are pretending Obama said. Ridiculous.

President Obama: Trayvon Martin case a ‘tragedy’
By Lesley Clark
lclark@mcclatchydc.com

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama spoke out Friday on the Trayvon Martin shooting for the first time, calling the incident a “tragedy” and invoking his own children.

“I can only imagine what these parents are going through,” the president said, adding that he couldn’t help but think about his daughters. “I think every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this.

“My main message is to the parents of Trayvon Martin,” he added. “If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon. I think they are right to expect that all of us as Americans are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves and we’re going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened.”

The president said he was pleased to hear that Florida Gov. Rick Scott has appointed a task force to look into the incident.

“I think all of us have to do some soul searching to figure out how does something like this happen,”

Noting that his attorney general is looking into the case, the president prefaced his remarks by saying it was important he was not “impairing any investigation that’s taking place right now.”

Obama’s remarks came as he stood in the Rose Garden to introduce his new choice for the president of the World Bank.

They were his first remarks on the incident. The White House earlier in the week noted it was a “local” event.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...#storylink=cpy

WTF you post something and people comment on it

Originally Posted by Riot

What nonsense. Obama was in a rose garden press conference and he was asked to comment directly by the press. His comment was respectful of the young dead boy, didn't slam Zimmerman, gave sympathy to the family for their loss, and acknowledges the reality that "walking while young male and black" is still a crime in some places.

And then you post something that contridicts what you originally posted while citing the folks who commented on YOUR QUOTES IN THE POST as nonsense??? WTF You are arguing against yourself for chrissakes.

It was embarrassing what he said. As a matter of fact it was disgraceful.

Put it this way...if a white guy was murdered by a guy who was part hispanic and black and Dubya answered the question like Obama did would he not be called a racist by the "opinion panels" on mainstream news?

He would. Without a doubt.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

It was embarrassing what he said. As a matter of fact it was disgraceful.

Put it this way...if a white guy was murdered by a guy who was part hispanic and black and Dubya answered the question like Obama did would he not be called a racist by the "opinion panels" on mainstream news?

He would. Without a doubt.

Coach, are you trying to inject logic in this argument? The liberals will never accept it.

Somewhere along the line you will get a convoluted explanation (not necessarily from Riot) of an alleged unidirectional element to discrimination - how the "white" people have power over the "black" people so the reverse direction of black on white crime isn't racist, or a hate crime. It's real convenient for the proponents of that point of view.

Originally Posted by joeydb

Coach, are you trying to inject logic in this argument? The liberals will never accept it.

Somewhere along the line you will get a convoluted explanation (not necessarily from Riot) of an alleged unidirectional element to discrimination - how the "white" people have power over the "black" people so the reverse direction of black on white crime isn't racist, or a hate crime. It's real convenient for the proponents of that point of view.

Yes the logic that only white people can be racist in America. Common white folks are the same as rich white folks who profited off slavery and oppression.


It's the same technique that they use for the green movement. And the idiots fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

It was embarrassing what he said. As a matter of fact it was disgraceful.

Put it this way...if a white guy was murdered by a guy who was part hispanic and black and Dubya answered the question like Obama did would he not be called a racist by the "opinion panels" on mainstream news?

He would. Without a doubt.

Re-election campaign > taking a side on a possible political timebomb.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

It was embarrassing what he said. As a matter of fact it was disgraceful.

Quote the actual words Obama said that you find so "embarrassing" and "disgraceful".

[pointman]

Originally Posted by jms62

WTF you post something and people comment on it



And then you post something that contridicts what you originally posted while citing the folks who commented on YOUR QUOTES IN THE POST as nonsense??? WTF You are arguing against yourself for chrissakes.

Why bother to try to inject logic with regard to her? You are better off banging your head against a wall, at least the result will be logical.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

Why bother to try to inject logic with regard to her? You are better off banging your head against a wall, at least the result will be logical.

He's injecting ridiculousness. And you are jumping on the bandwagon of his ignorance. You look a fool.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

WTF you post something and people comment on it

And then you post something that contridicts what you originally posted while citing the folks who commented on YOUR QUOTES IN THE POST as nonsense??? WTF You are arguing against yourself for chrissakes.

For chrissakes:

Did you actually bother to listen to what Obama said? Apparently not.

Coach said: Obama crowbarred his opinion into this. False. His press secretary refused to comment upon it for a week, then Obama gave a statement understanding of the parents loss when asked directly in a presser, completely avoiding direct comment upon the case.

You and Joey accuse Obama, saying he convicted Zimmerman in his statement. False. He never said that. Never came close.

And you guys attack me when you never even listened to what Obama said? LOL.

The "walking while young and black" reference I made was to Obama saying that if he had a son, he'd look like Trayvon. He clearly didn't mention Zimmerman as you allege.

You are taking my opinion and mistakenly attributing it to Obama. Geeshus - at least you should bother to LISTEN TO THE DAMN comments he made before you condemn it, and condemn what other people - who have listened to it - say about it.

WTF back at you. You're commenting on something you haven't even bothered to listen to, just taking my opinion about it totally out of context with zero reference or knowledge to what I'm referring to.

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Geeshus cripes: here is the complete transcript for the google and YouTube impaired, and those commenting upon it without any knowledge.

Perhaps Coach can point out which of these words by the President are so "disgraceful" and "embarrassing", and jms and Joey can point out where Obama convicted Zimmerman without a trial.

Question: Mr. President, may I ask you about this current case in Florida, very controversial, allegations of lingering racism within our society -- the so-called do not -- I'm sorry -- Stand Your Ground law and the justice in that? Can you comment on the Trayvon Martin case, sir?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, I’m the head of the executive branch, and the Attorney General reports to me so I’ve got to be careful about my statements to make sure that we’re not impairing any investigation that’s taking place right now.

But obviously, this is a tragedy. I can only imagine what these parents are going through. And when I think about this boy, I think about my own kids. And I think every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this, and that everybody pulls together -- federal, state and local -- to figure out exactly how this tragedy happened.

So I'm glad that not only is the Justice Department looking into it, I understand now that the governor of the state of Florida has formed a task force to investigate what's taking place. I think all of us have to do some soul searching to figure out how does something like this happen. And that means that examine the laws and the context for what happened, as well as the specifics of the incident.

But my main message is to the parents of Trayvon Martin. If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon. And I think they are right to expect that all of us as Americans are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves, and that we're going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened. Thank you.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Riot

For chrissakes:

Did you actually bother to listen to what Obama said? Apparently not.

Coach said: Obama crowbarred his opinion into this. False. His press secretary refused to comment upon it for a week, then Obama gave a statement understanding of the parents loss when asked directly in a presser, completely avoiding direct comment upon the case.

You and Joey accuse Obama, saying he convicted Zimmerman in his statement. False. He never said that. Never came close.

And you guys attack me when you never even listened to what Obama said? LOL.

The "walking while young and black" reference I made was to Obama saying that if he had a son, he'd look like Trayvon. He clearly didn't mention Zimmerman as you allege.

You are taking my opinion and mistakenly attributing it to Obama. Geeshus - at least you should bother to LISTEN TO THE DAMN comments he made before you condemn it, and condemn what other people - who have listened to it - say about it.

WTF back at you. You're commenting on something you haven't even bothered to listen to, just taking my opinion about it totally out of context with zero reference or knowledge to what I'm referring to.

Why would you quote something "walking while young and black" that Obama didn't actually say but is your own reference?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

Why would you quote something "walking while young and black" that Obama didn't actually say but is your own reference?

Because in the English language, quotation marks can be used to indicate direct quotations, or in indirect use as paraphrasing of another's words or thoughts within the context of discussion.

Sorry you mistook it as a direct quote.

If you had listened to Obama's actual words before you commented upon them, as I apparently wrongly assumed you did, (because you are commenting upon them, I assume you heard them) you wouldn't have made that false interpretation of my comment, because you'd read my comments in reference to what Obama said.

This is why the internet can suck - LOL

[Rupert Pupkin]

Some courageous young men decided to get justice for Trayvon. I hope these fine young men don't get in trouble for their courageous act.

"While Mr. Watts (78 year old man) was down the boys kicked him, over and over, shouting, "[Get] that white [man]. This is for Trayvon ... Trayvon lives, white [man]. Kill that white [man]," according to a police report."

http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fi...-E-Toledo.html

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Some courageous young men decided to get justice for Trayvon. I hope these fine young men don't get in trouble for their courageous act.

"While Mr. Watts (78 year old man) was down the boys kicked him, over and over, shouting, "[Get] that white [man]. This is for Trayvon ... Trayvon lives, white [man]. Kill that white [man]," according to a police report."

http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fi...-E-Toledo.html

These kids are clearly all class.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Shelby Steele, who happens to be black, wrote an interesting article about the Trayvon Martin case. He says, "The absurdity of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton is that they want to make a movement out of an anomaly. Black teenagers today are afraid of other black teenagers, not whites."


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...134926300.html

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Some courageous young men decided to get justice for Trayvon. I hope these fine young men don't get in trouble for their courageous act.

"While Mr. Watts (78 year old man) was down the boys kicked him, over and over, shouting, "[Get] that white [man]. This is for Trayvon ... Trayvon lives, white [man]. Kill that white [man]," according to a police report."

http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fi...-E-Toledo.html

Not to sound like a broken record about spreading a wide net when reading about a story, but this is an example of when a story is only found on right-wing sites (or left-wing, for that matter), and does not eventually get picked up by the mass media, there may be a reason for it:

http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fi...aggerated.html

[herkhorse]

Holy Crap is that Morty!!!???!!!

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Not to sound like a broken record about spreading a wide net when reading about a story, but this is an example of when a story is only found on right-wing sites (or left-wing, for that matter), and does not eventually get picked up by the mass media, there may be a reason for it:

http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fi...aggerated.html

I didn't know the Toledoblade was a right-wing site. The story was from the Toledoblade and the change to the story was also from the Toledoblade.

The guys who committed the robbery were dangerous guys. One of them was wanted for an unrelated shooting.