The Classic

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by pgardn

ARl Jim.

I think it might be a case of us being a little older and having heard so many called Locks and the greatest ever. And then you got some people (Cunningham) that looks at how a horse is bred and if they run really well like Berni, well then its all over. But there is that little extra problem of being able to respond to tough trips... and just not giving in; That puts the really special ones over the top even in a loss.

I think Berni could have won this race. I really think he got pushed too early after viewing the replay again. And that is how a jock and horse figure out how to win races. By a tough loss... If they are really special.

I agree completely about Bernardini, he might have taken it with a more patient ride. Javier put him into a big time drive on the turn that looks in hindsight to be premature. No shame though because the horse that beat him is very good.

Speaking of Cunningham, I'll be curious how he explains away today. Not only Bernardini losing to Invasor but he made a big issue that scat Daddy was hands down the best two year old in the country, and he guaranteed that at a minimum Scat Daddy would finish in front of Circular Quay which he didn't.

I think Lawyer Ron cutting in on Bernardini and having him sit 5 off the pace was unsettling. When you are running hard and then get a position denied at a point in the race when positioning becomes important. They got impatient. Invasor did pull a gut check though. Good tough win.

The horse (Berni) has never felt what it is like to have a gut check and he did today. And he did not wilt, but he had nothing left. When you have never felt that before... experience pays. I have felt that pain while running in races. Horses have got to feel that and get over it. Horses learn to overcome if they are real runners. I would like to see him again. I really would.

I wonder how many people know what it feels like to run around a track and have your legs just die on you and get passed but not give in. You too can know what it feels like people of the board. Go to the nearest school and get out there and run some 400 meter repeats at your closest track today.

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[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Speaking of Cunningham, I'll be curious how he explains away today. Not only Bernardini losing to Invasor but he made a big issue that scat Daddy was hands down the best two year old in the country, and he guaranteed that at a minimum Scat Daddy would finish in front of Circular Quay which he didn't.

lol. don't forget Henny Hughes. Hey, it's all just racing opinion BS. Although there is now an open position as "Unpaid Godolphin Shill" available.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

lol. don't forget Henny Hughes. Hey, it's all just racing opinion BS. Although there is now an open position as "Unpaid Godolphin Shill" available.

I can't forget Henny Hughes because I keyed him.

Got out a step slow and then got knocked around and that was all she wrote.
Fortunately I had a back-up ticket with Thors Echo.

[sumitas]

Castellano panicked and went too soon. I still think Invasor would have won but it would have been much closer. Jara had the distance measured.

[almar3t]

Remember back at the Derby and the detractors of Brother Derek pointed out that facing 4-5 horse fields and leading the whole way would hurt a horse facing a field of 20 where rating experience is a plus? Remember how a horse running in front by himself winning by hugh lenghts creates a high Beyer number(Bellamy Road anyone?). I just kept thinking this was the same sceneiro for Bernadini coming into the classic. Facing tough older campaigners and with legimate speed in the race would be his real test. I felt the Preakness wasn't a real test because the Derby had sapped most of the field and of course the breakdown of Barbaro changed the complexion of that race. Bernadini ran a good race but running against 4 horse fields came home to roost with the experience of Invasor winning the day.


almar3t

[Suffolk Shippers]

Originally Posted by almar3t

Remember back at the Derby and the detractors of Brother Derek pointed out that facing 4-5 horse fields and leading the whole way would hurt a horse facing a field of 20 where rating experience is a plus? Remember how a horse running in front by himself winning by hugh lenghts creates a high Beyer number(Bellamy Road anyone?). I just kept thinking this was the same sceneiro for Bernadini coming into the classic. Facing tough older campaigners and with legimate speed in the race would be his real test. I felt the Preakness wasn't a real test because the Derby had sapped most of the field and of course the breakdown of Barbaro changed the complexion of that race. Bernadini ran a good race but running against 4 horse fields came home to roost with the experience of Invasor winning the day.


almar3t

Great points Almar. If you bet value, like I do, and wanted no piece of a 4-5 favorite, it was time to bet Invasor with two hands. Bernardini was vunerable today on all the fronts you made points of, and the logical choice at the premium value was definately Invasor.