"What are conservatives trying to conserve"?

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

most republicans are simply anti abortion and would like that their tax dollars don't fund it, very few take the extreme positions that people here are ascribing to them, such as taking away freedoms(some would say freedom to murder). Abortion is trotted out every election cycle, it's used to whip folks into a frenzy, suddenly out of nowhere people are talking about a war on women, the equivalent of the American Taliban, huh? unfortunately it's all a sideshow to distract you from the real damage being done.
the truth is that these social issues are divisive and are not clearly defined by parties. abortion, gay marriage, they both have supporters and detractors in the major parties.

the size and scope of government is the main issue that divides the left and right. the left is only too happy to seek one government solution after another. people on the right simply wonder why when this approach is failing so miserably around the world do people keep pounding the drums for bailouts, new programs, higher taxes (on those other people), increased government spending, new social programs, government takeover of healthcare, etc, etc. please put down the kool aid, dust off your spectacles and take an honest look at what lies ahead. We are on an unsustainable path. doesn't anyone realize what that means? it mean your kids and grandkids will live with a reduced standard of living, that we are done moving forward and now will simply spiral down the drain. these economic shocks that we experienced recently are nothing like what is coming. there is not enough money in the world for us to pay off our obligations over the next 50 years and its our children who are going to be left holding the bag.
this isn't going to go away either, we won't wake up and it will all be gone like a bad dream, time won't heal this wound, it will only make it worse the more time that we continue in this way. we can either do something about it, or we can keep listening to the statists and con men in the government media complex who tell us that our government is wonderful and that they are really taking great care of things for us, when all they are really about is taking care of themselves..

It's fascinating to me that during the 8 years Bush was running 2 unfunded wars, slashing taxes and forcing through a major new entitlement (Medicare Part D) not a peep was heard from conservatives. But come the inauguration of Obama, suddenly the deficit is the major threat to America's future. And the only way to deal with it, of course, is to slash programs for the poor and middle class. Because shut up, that's why.

Come on, now. Your guy, Cheney, said, and I quote, "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter."

Unless you were posting lots of screeds here against runaway Republican spending during the years 2000-2008. You may have; I don't remember. Please post links to those threads if you did.

Modern conservatism can be summed up in, "If libruls are fer it, we're agin' it!"

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

It's fascinating to me that during the 8 years Bush was running 2 unfunded wars, slashing taxes and forcing through a major new entitlement (Medicare Part D) not a peep was heard from conservatives. But come the inauguration of Obama, suddenly the deficit is the major threat to America's future. And the only way to deal with it, of course, is to slash programs for the poor and middle class. Because shut up, that's why.

Come on, now. Your guy, Cheney, said, and I quote, "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter."

Unless you were posting lots of screeds here against runaway Republican spending during the years 2000-2008. You may have; I don't remember. Please post links to those threads if you did.

Modern conservatism can be summed up in, "If libruls are fer it, we're agin' it!"

that quote is 100% correct. What also is 100% correct is the librul motto "if repubs are for it we are against it"

its the main reason our country is so fucl<ed up. both parties just attack each other, there is no middle ground.....

UNTIL


you go behind the scenes and the guys from both parties are golfing and drinking and laughing to each other about how they've punked the american people into thinking the sides are different from each other and that the government gives a crap about the people they are supposed to represent.


the Bush years sucked. the Obama years have been equally as shitty, with no end in sight.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

that quote is 100% correct. What also is 100% correct is the librul motto "if repubs are for it we are against it"

its the main reason our country is so fucl<ed up. both parties just attack each other, there is no middle ground.....

UNTIL


you go behind the scenes and the guys from both parties are golfing and drinking and laughing to each other about how they've punked the american people into thinking the sides are different from each other and that the government gives a crap about the people they are supposed to represent.


the Bush years sucked. the Obama years have been equally as shitty, with no end in sight.

This is the prevailing wind right now.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

This is the prevailing wind right now.

So the owners of the government realize that they have been discovered so what is their next step? Use their owned media to incite a race war. It will shift focus while they continue to pick our pockets.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by jms62

So the owners of the government realize that they have been discovered so what is their next step? Use their owned media to incite a race war. It will shift focus while they continue to pick our pockets.

Not sure what the banksters will do, likely nothing since things do not seem to change (or hope) concerning them.
My plan;
Tear the whole thing down and start from scratch using the easily understood, plain English language of the Constitution as a guideline. That and no more career pols, that is where it all went wrong, go to DC, do your work and go back into the real world and work like the rest of us.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

that quote is 100% correct. What also is 100% correct is the librul motto "if repubs are for it we are against it"

its the main reason our country is so fucl<ed up. both parties just attack each other, there is no middle ground.....

UNTIL


you go behind the scenes and the guys from both parties are golfing and drinking and laughing to each other about how they've punked the american people into thinking the sides are different from each other and that the government gives a crap about the people they are supposed to represent.


the Bush years sucked. the Obama years have been equally as shitty, with no end in sight.