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Old 03-19-2012, 10:43 AM
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Well, at least there's still Game of Thrones.
That Eunuch reminds me of a few different people I've known.

That shifty MoFo who stands for nothing will be around right until the end when someone who stands for something finishes it off.

I think The Stark's have an edge over the Lanister's because they have a bastard son guarding the wall... and he knows the ins and outs of The White Riders.

The Lanister dwarf will be around till the last dog dies. He's a great charchter.

The blonde haired dragon lady is going to be an absolute menace.
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:05 AM
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That Eunuch reminds me of a few different people I've known.

That shifty MoFo who stands for nothing will be around right until the end when someone who stands for something finishes it off.

I think The Stark's have an edge over the Lanister's because they have a bastard son guarding the wall... and he knows the ins and outs of The White Riders.

The Lanister dwarf will be around till the last dog dies. He's a great charchter.

The blonde haired dragon lady is going to be an absolute menace.
The series got me to read the books- I really liked the first three, but the second two are a little long without a lot happening (in my opinion, anyway). There's a lot more background in the books, which I found made the show even better on a second viewing.

I hope you're right about Tyrion- he's one of my favorite characters, too. I'm glad to see the actress who played Anne Boleyn in The Tudors showing up in Season Two. I thought The Tudors was a crap show, when all was said and done, but the first two seasons, when she was in it, were fun.
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:17 PM
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The series got me to read the books- I really liked the first three.
I pirated the entire first season of Game of Thrones on Utorrent...and watched it all back-to-back for like 8 or 10 straight hours when I got sick.

I admire people who have the patience to read a book from start to finish with a story that involved. I could never do it.
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I pirated the entire first season of Game of Thrones on Utorrent...and watched it all back-to-back for like 8 or 10 straight hours when I got sick.

I admire people who have the patience to read a book from start to finish with a story that involved. I could never do it.
Honestly, I think the only reason I was able to read the book was because I'd seen the series already and understood what was going on. There are so many characters that if I went into the book not knowing anything about it, I think I'd have given up around page 30. I just don't have the focus for fiction books like I used to.

Come to think of it, Luck isn't any more complex than Game of Thrones, but I guess complexity is easier to take when there are swords and a lot of nekkid people.
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Honestly, I think the only reason I was able to read the book was because I'd seen the series already and understood what was going on. There are so many characters that if I went into the book not knowing anything about it, I think I'd have given up around page 30. I just don't have the focus for fiction books like I used to.

Come to think of it, Luck isn't any more complex than Game of Thrones, but I guess complexity is easier to take when there are swords and a lot of nekkid people.
looked up game of thrones-sounds like it's based on the wars of the roses.
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looked up game of thrones-sounds like it's based on the wars of the roses.
The author mentions it as an inspiration, but having read the book, and knowing a bit about that period in English history, I don't think it really matches up all that closely. He pulls from a lot of historical events- he mentions using the Black Dinner of Scottish history (prior to the War of the Roses) as inspiration for an event in the third book, etc., but they're more springboards for his own world than the basis for a roman à clef.

Fun show, for sure. And has inspired a new term, "sexposition"- in which large amounts of otherwise boring background information is disseminated while attractive people are having sex.
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The author mentions it as an inspiration, but having read the book, and knowing a bit about that period in English history, I don't think it really matches up all that closely. He pulls from a lot of historical events- he mentions using the Black Dinner of Scottish history (prior to the War of the Roses) as inspiration for an event in the third book, etc., but they're more springboards for his own world than the basis for a roman à clef.

Fun show, for sure. And has inspired a new term, "sexposition"- in which large amounts of otherwise boring background information is disseminated while attractive people are having sex.
i'd have to read the book to know for sure, but i just know the chief points i read instantly reminded me of warwick, edward, richard and the like.
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Come to think of it, Luck isn't any more complex than Game of Thrones, but I guess complexity is easier to take when there are swords and a lot of nekkid people.
Luck seems very simple outside of the Dustin Hoffman charachter -- where a lot of stuff is going on and some of which I'm not exactly following.

I enjoy watching Luck...but it's so badly handcuffed by the time period it's based in.

Base Luck in the late 1800's -- make the Dustin Hoffman charachter Plunger Walton... you will have so many great angles and charchters of the time to work with. It couldn't possibly fail.

You'd have much better angles at every turn. You'd lose the Escalante charchter (obviously the best one on Luck) -- but his type of role could be replaced by someone like former slave Brown Dick. Brown Dick's Wiki page: ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_D._Brown )

Brown Dick won the Belmont as a jockey in 1870, he won the Kentucky Derby as a trainer in 1877, and was the leading trainer at Churchill Downs in 1871 and 1872. You'd have the whole race thing with some black jockeys and trainers.

Charchters based on people like John Morrissey, Charles Reed, Pittsburgh Phil, and the butcher Dwyer Brothers would be obvious.
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Luck seems very simple outside of the Dustin Hoffman charachter -- where a lot of stuff is going on and some of which I'm not exactly following.

I enjoy watching Luck...but it's so badly handcuffed by the time period it's based in.

Base Luck in the late 1800's -- make the Dustin Hoffman charachter Plunger Walton... you will have so many great angles and charchters of the time to work with. It couldn't possibly fail.

You'd have much better angles at every turn. You'd lose the Escalante charchter (obviously the best one on Luck) -- but his type of role could be replaced by someone like former slave Brown Dick. Brown Dick's Wiki page: ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_D._Brown )

Brown Dick won the Belmont as a jockey in 1870, he won the Kentucky Derby as a trainer in 1877, and was the leading trainer at Churchill Downs in 1871 and 1872. You'd have the whole race thing with some black jockeys and trainers.

Charchters based on people like John Morrissey, Charles Reed, Pittsburgh Phil, and the butcher Dwyer Brothers would be obvious.
You've mentioned that before, and I do think it would be a great premise for a show, not to mention make for some great costume porn, so to speak. The budget, though, I imagine, would be astronomical for a TV show.
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You've mentioned that before, and I do think it would be a great premise for a show, not to mention make for some great costume porn, so to speak. The budget, though, I imagine, would be astronomical for a TV show.
I've never understood why they need to make their own racing scences.

Can't you just get a cheaper racetrack to let you film a few actual races and use them?

The racing scences are always terrible in every horse racing production. They're better in Luck than in any horse racing movie...and they're still pretty bad.

Why not just find a racetrack that will let you film races on the track. Put those cameras on the jockeys helmets and take as many flashy camera angles as you can for each race.

Hell, even film the trial races at EVD that so many soon to be first-time-starters in the state of LA compete in. If you pay the connections a few hundred bucks to wear saddle towels and silks I'm sure they'd be happy to.

After you have 100 races or so in the bank...pick the cuts from the most useful ones.

If you want to add anything to an actual racing scene ... go make the silks, go buy a similar looking horse, and add on to it.

Making an entire horse race from scratch is nuts and the end-result is always laughable.
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That Eunuch reminds me of a few different people I've known.

That shifty MoFo who stands for nothing will be around right until the end when someone who stands for something finishes it off.

I think The Stark's have an edge over the Lanister's because they have a bastard son guarding the wall... and he knows the ins and outs of The White Riders.

The Lanister dwarf will be around till the last dog dies. He's a great charchter.

The blonde haired dragon lady is going to be an absolute menace.

The Eunuch reminds me of Riot and King Joffrey reminds me of Obama.
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