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[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

What about it? Wisconsin's massive, country-leading six months of job losses were the last six months of 2011, under Governor Walker. According to the Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics, your statement is completely false.

Wisconsin is still behind in jobs, the jobs lost have not be replaced, although January, as you posted in another thread, had a net gain. But no, that little net gain in January didn't replace all losses.

Absolutely the thousands of jobs lost in 2011 have not already been replaced. Post your numbers if you are going to make crazy claims.

Unlike your mysterious mining press release( that no one can find but supposidely you) the jobs numbers are available for your viewing pleasure. Try looking them up. I will give u a hint not on huffington or any liberal blog.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Unlike your mysterious mining press release( that no one can find but supposidely you)

LOL - I've told you the press conference from the company May 6th. Try your Wisconsin newspapers - which is where I got the info from.

the jobs numbers are available for your viewing pleasure. Try looking them up. I will give u a hint not on huffington or any liberal blog

I'm going by the published Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics numbers that show that Wisconsin had the worse job creation in the country, six straight months of job loss. You know, the links I've posted multiple times here? That are sitting in the other thread right now?

Oh, and here's the information from Drudge for you. Hardly a "liberal blog"

February 2012
Wisconsin’s six consecutive months with job loss

Today, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released a report compiling job numbers for every state in the Union. The report shows Wisconsin is the only state to have lost jobs for the past six straight months, while the nation as a whole has gained jobs for 22 straight months. Below is Rep. Pocan's statement on Wisconsin's dismal job performance under Governor Scott Walker:

http://www.drudge.com/news/153551/wi...ive-months-job

Post different if you have them. You don't. Six straight months of job loss under Walker. He's a job-loss disaster.

Oh: and here's Politifact showing how Walker attempting to use in-state job numbers (Wisconsin Workforce Development) rather than Federal Bureau of Labor Stats numbers, in an attempt to fudge the numbers and make himself look good - is faked. Just read down through all the updates, which shows how Walker's claims are not true.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/...0000-new-jobs/

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

LOL - I've told you the press conference from the company May 6th. Try your Wisconsin newspapers - which is where I got the info from.



I'm going by the published Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics numbers that show that Wisconsin had the worse job creation in the country, six straight months of job loss. You know, the links I've posted multiple times here? That are sitting in the other thread right now?

Oh, and here's the information from Drudge for you. Hardly a "liberal blog"


Post different if you have them. You don't. Six straight months of job loss under Walker. He's a job-loss disaster.

Look at jan- june 2011 numbers

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Look at jan- june 2011 numbers

I have. I posted the actual graph in the other thread, the Economic Policy Institute analysis of the Federal Bureau of Labor numbers. Six straight months of massive job loss in Wisconsin, and no, the jobs numbers still are not back where they were.

In fact, lets actually list those Jan-June 2011 number right here for you now:

See the January 2011- June 2011 red line? Every job created was lost. Net change to zero (the black line)

See the red line from June 2011 through December 2011? Job loss. Six months. Wisconsin. While other states were growing. Yes, my statement has always been true. Walker was responsible for six straight months of job loss in Wisconsin.

See where the line is now? Still below the number of jobs Wisconsin had in June 2011 (the heavy black line)

Here's the graph again. Can you read it this time, maybe?

http://www.epi.org/blog/wisconsin-an...ector-workers/

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

LOL - I've told you the press conference from the company May 6th. Try your Wisconsin newspapers - which is where I got the info from.
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I am just following up on this since you post facts and only the facts. I am assuming you meant the press release from March 6th, not May 6th. So since you couldn't post it I thought I would

GOGEBIC TACONITE, LLC 402 SILVER STREET HURLEY, WI 54534 (715) 561-2601
March 6, 2012
Statement by Gogebic Taconite, LLC President Bill Williams on State Senate
Rejection of Mining Reforms:
Senate rejection of the mining reforms in Assembly Bill 426 sends a clear message that Wisconsin will not welcome iron mining. We get the message. GTac is ending plans to invest in a Wisconsin mine. We thank the many people who have supported our efforts.


I am guessing your made up press release in your head contained some other information than the actual release.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

I am guessing your made up press release in your head contained some other information than the actual release.

Nope. Watched the CEO talking to the press that day, press conference. Try again.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Nope. Watched the CEO talking to the press that day, press conference. Try again.

post a copy of the press conference notes or a link to it then since every article, link, press release online states something different

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

post a copy of the press conference notes or a link to it then since every article, link, press release online states something different

??? No, not "every article" states something different. The company could only make a profit if the expensive environmental regulations were removed for them, and this year, as the bill was attempted to be shoved through, the price of ore continued to drop, making the project a complete financial unworkability. It was discussed in multiple places, and I saw it on a news station interview with the CEO by a news guy on the internet, the day the company released their press release.

If you don't agree, or think that's false, I can't help you. Continue to freak out about it.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

??? No, not "every article" states something different. The company could only make a profit if the expensive environmental regulations were removed for them, and this year, as the bill was attempted to be shoved through, the price of ore continued to drop, making the project a complete financial unworkability. It was discussed in multiple places, and I saw it on a news station interview with the CEO by a news guy on the internet, the day the company released their press release.

If you don't agree, or think that's false, I can't help you. Continue to freak out about it.

thanks for clarifying this for me. The mine will be built just north of WI in the UP most likely in the near future. The fact is the ore price drop didn't have anything to do with the company's decision. It had to do with the ridiculous amount of time and money that needed to be spent in order for the permit process that makes any mining activity in WI a losing investment. It is like placing millions of dollars on a horse that should be 20-1 at 2-1 odds. It just doesn't make sense. Spin it however you want. GOP wanted to get a reasonable time frame with responsible environmental standards working with the DNR. The opposition doesn't want Walker to have any victories at all at the cost of jobs, money, etc. Kind of like the letter from the teachers union. I really hope Walker wins again and we can end these political games being played to the detriment of the citizens of the state.