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Old 03-16-2012, 02:02 PM
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Yes, thank you for what you posted. Because your addition also points out how the current Republican party absolutely can not bring themselves to give any rights to Indian Tribes, let alone immigrants.
S.1925 states that it recognizes the “inherent power” of Indian tribes “which is hereby recognized and affirmed, to exercise special domestic violence criminal jurisdiction over all persons.” But, there is no inherent power of tribes to do anything of the sort the bill says. Self-government is not government over “all persons” – including non-Indians. Because tribes lack this power, it’s untrue to say that Congress can recognize and affirm it. For the first time, the Committee would extend tribal criminal jurisdiction over non-Indians. Why would Congress, should it decide for the first time to make such a change, do so on a bill to reauthorize VAWA? Why should domestic violence cases be the first criminal cases to be treated in this way? What precedent would be created that might lead to other prosecutions of non-Indians in tribal courts?

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Old 03-16-2012, 02:05 PM
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S.1925 states that it recognizes the “inherent power” of Indian tribes “which is hereby recognized and affirmed, to exercise special domestic violence criminal jurisdiction over all persons.” But, there is no inherent power of tribes to do anything of the sort the bill says. Self-government is not government over “all persons” – including non-Indians. Because tribes lack this power, it’s untrue to say that Congress can recognize and affirm it. For the first time, the Committee would extend tribal criminal jurisdiction over non-Indians. Why would Congress, should it decide for the first time to make such a change, do so on a bill to reauthorize VAWA? Why should domestic violence cases be the first criminal cases to be treated in this way? What precedent would be created that might lead to other prosecutions of non-Indians in tribal courts?

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