Luck

[Merlinsky]

From Twitter: @BillCorbett - Asked to comment on the cancellation of LUCK, Nick Nolte said: "Mmmmwwrzzzzzin fuggin horzzzes aaargghhhmrrzzz."

Reading some viewer comments on Yahoo. Most people hated it becuase they could not understand the horse racing jargon, felt the actors were mumbling and it was a topic unrelatable.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

Reading some viewer comments on Yahoo. Most people hated it becuase they could not understand the horse racing jargon, felt the actors were mumbling and it was a topic unrelatable.

Milch was on the Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson the other day. They showed a clip that was almost entirely jargon. Very little in the way of normal vocabulary. There's gotta be a sense of context or characters (I don't mean watching gamblers mid-gamble). Show Nolte or Hoffman who have other things going on and are, frankly, more famous draws. Hit newbies with the other stuff when they watch the show. I remember thinking that if I weren't already a fan of the sport, that clip would turn me off of trying to start watching Luck. It's dry when you just read out a string of wagers. It makes it sound like you're reading a math equation. Really bad idea to show it and expect anyone to go 'sign me up for that.' I really thought it was a missed opportunity.

I bet HBO execs tipped PETA off on the third death.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I bet HBO execs tipped PETA off on the third death.

I thought I was the only person who thought along those lines!

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I thought I was the only person who thought along those lines!

Yeah it was just a bad attempt at entertainment. Just because people have immense talent doesn't mean they can make good art every single time. This show seemed desperate from the start. It's understandable considering how awful the last few projects from Mann have been.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Milch was on the Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson the other day. They showed a clip that was almost entirely jargon. Very little in the way of normal vocabulary. There's gotta be a sense of context or characters (I don't mean watching gamblers mid-gamble). Show Nolte or Hoffman who have other things going on and are, frankly, more famous draws. Hit newbies with the other stuff when they watch the show. I remember thinking that if I weren't already a fan of the sport, that clip would turn me off of trying to start watching Luck. It's dry when you just read out a string of wagers. It makes it sound like you're reading a math equation. Really bad idea to show it and expect anyone to go 'sign me up for that.' I really thought it was a missed opportunity.

Sounds like they should have done some of those "webisodes" a la True Blood to explain some of the lingo.

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

From Twitter: @BillCorbett - Asked to comment on the cancellation of LUCK, Nick Nolte said: "Mmmmwwrzzzzzin fuggin horzzzes aaargghhhmrrzzz."

pretty funny

something tells me, this isn't the last we've heard from this show

par for the course, i stopped watching hbo once they 86'd john from cincinnati before the first season even ended.


-bt-

[tector]

Originally Posted by -BT-

something tells me, this isn't the last we've heard from this show

-bt-

OK, this a wager I will be happy to make.

Those HBO c**ksuckers killed Deadwood on a cost versus ratings basis, and that show was much, much better (and far more acclaimed) than Luck (which I liked but had no illusions about).

Luck is gone, and no other network is going to revive it. Who the hell would want that heat for those ratings?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by tector

OK, this a wager I will be happy to make.

Those HBO c**ksuckers killed Deadwood on a cost versus ratings basis, and that show was much, much better (and far more acclaimed) than Luck (which I liked but had no illusions about).

Luck is gone, and no other network is going to revive it. Who the hell would want that heat for those ratings?

exactly. they wouldn't have cancelled had the show been doing well.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by tector

OK, this a wager I will be happy to make.

Those HBO c**ksuckers killed Deadwood on a cost versus ratings basis, and that show was much, much better (and far more acclaimed) than Luck (which I liked but had no illusions about).

Luck is gone, and no other network is going to revive it. Who the hell would want that heat for those ratings?

I can't blame a network for canceling a show that isn't making it money, but I can blame them for using the death of a horse that wasn't even on set as the excuse. What are the odds it comes up during the Kentucky Derby broadcast? Le sigh.

[Powderfinger]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

From Twitter: @BillCorbett - Asked to comment on the cancellation of LUCK, Nick Nolte said: "Mmmmwwrzzzzzin fuggin horzzzes aaargghhhmrrzzz."

Poor guy …he can't catch a break… I feel his pain… not only do they slaughter delphi for the insurance money but now they ruin the only derby chances he'll ever have…. he's probably sitting in front of the stable now saying "they killed the show.'

[Powderfinger]

We all know why they really cancelled the show- bad ratings. But we haven't heard much about the first two breakdowns. The last one occurred when they were walking the horse back to the stall, as reported. But we never heard the details of the first two. In the first episode there was a catastrophic breakdown in the very first race, I believe(it didn't take the show long to show that part of horse racing) Was this the horse that had to be euthanized? Did something go wrong with a stunt they were doing?

They should be able to perform these stunts safely. A horse can fall and get back up safely. Heck, back in the day in these steeplechase races, the WINNER of the race typically fell three or four times.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

We all know why they really cancelled the show- bad ratings. But we haven't heard much about the first two breakdowns. The last one occurred when they were walking the horse back to the stall, as reported. But we never heard the details of the first two. In the first episode there was a catastrophic breakdown in the very first race, I believe(it didn't take the show long to show that part of horse racing) Was this the horse that had to be euthanized? Did something go wrong with a stunt they were doing?

They should be able to perform these stunts safely. A horse can fall and get back up safely. Heck, back in the day in these steeplechase races, the WINNER of the race typically fell three or four times.

the other two fatalities were discussed earlier in the thread. go to page 6.

[GenuineRisk]

Well, at least there's still Game of Thrones.

[GenuineRisk]

Apologies if this has been posted before- this TV Guide article mentions that Stronach may have wanted to stop allowing the show to have Santa Anita as its location:

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Luck-HBO...n-1044949.aspx

[richard]

212-512-1000

I have called HBO at the above number and expressed my extreme dissapointment at their broken promise not to renew Luck. http://www.theatlantic.com/entertain...s-luck/254539/
" The cancellation of the series... is a devastating blow to horse racing."

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Well, at least there's still Game of Thrones.

That Eunuch reminds me of a few different people I've known.

That shifty MoFo who stands for nothing will be around right until the end when someone who stands for something finishes it off.

I think The Stark's have an edge over the Lanister's because they have a bastard son guarding the wall... and he knows the ins and outs of The White Riders.

The Lanister dwarf will be around till the last dog dies. He's a great charchter.

The blonde haired dragon lady is going to be an absolute menace.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

That Eunuch reminds me of a few different people I've known.

That shifty MoFo who stands for nothing will be around right until the end when someone who stands for something finishes it off.

I think The Stark's have an edge over the Lanister's because they have a bastard son guarding the wall... and he knows the ins and outs of The White Riders.

The Lanister dwarf will be around till the last dog dies. He's a great charchter.

The blonde haired dragon lady is going to be an absolute menace.

The series got me to read the books- I really liked the first three, but the second two are a little long without a lot happening (in my opinion, anyway). There's a lot more background in the books, which I found made the show even better on a second viewing.

I hope you're right about Tyrion- he's one of my favorite characters, too. I'm glad to see the actress who played Anne Boleyn in The Tudors showing up in Season Two. I thought The Tudors was a crap show, when all was said and done, but the first two seasons, when she was in it, were fun.

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

That Eunuch reminds me of a few different people I've known.

That shifty MoFo who stands for nothing will be around right until the end when someone who stands for something finishes it off.

I think The Stark's have an edge over the Lanister's because they have a bastard son guarding the wall... and he knows the ins and outs of The White Riders.

The Lanister dwarf will be around till the last dog dies. He's a great charchter.

The blonde haired dragon lady is going to be an absolute menace.

The Eunuch reminds me of Riot and King Joffrey reminds me of Obama.