Andrew Breitbart dies of "natural causes"

Rudeboyelvis · #1 03-01-2012, 10:44 AM

And by the way, nobody dies of "natural causes" at 43 years of age. The autopsy will be enlightening.

bigrun · #2 03-01-2012, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

And by the way, nobody dies of "natural causes" at 43 years of age. The autopsy will be enlightening.

Is a heart attack 'natural causes'?...too early to tell but here is an excerpt from US news..

According to the Associated Press, Breitbart was walking near his house in the Brentwood neighborhood shortly after midnight Thursday when he collapsed, his father-in-law Orson Bean said.

Someone saw him fall and called paramedics, who tried to revive him. They rushed him to the emergency room at UCLA Medical Center, Bean said.

Breitbart had suffered heart problems a year earlier, but Bean said he could not pinpoint what happened.

dellinger63 · #3 03-01-2012, 11:19 AM

I'm sure Riot will tell us what happened. Until then it's just rumors.

geeker2 · #4 03-01-2012, 11:37 AM

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I'm sure Riot will tell us what happened. Until then it's just rumors.

I laughed

Danzig · #5 03-01-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

And by the way, nobody dies of "natural causes" at 43 years of age. The autopsy will be enlightening.

people younger than him have died and it be ruled natural causes. he may well have had an illness that no one knew about and it killed him. i worked with a lady who wasn't 40 yet and suffered a stroke. it's rare at younger ages, but it does happen.

just because the guy said things people didn't like doesn't mean it was a kgb/ussr 'heart attack'. nor does it mean he deserved death or that karma had it out for him. hitler and stalin living longer lives certainly bears that out.

Rudeboyelvis · #6 03-01-2012, 12:14 PM

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people younger than him have died and it be ruled natural causes. he may well have had an illness that no one knew about and it killed him. i worked with a lady who wasn't 40 yet and suffered a stroke. it's rare at younger ages, but it does happen.

just because the guy said things people didn't like doesn't mean it was a kgb/ussr 'heart attack'. nor does it mean he deserved death or that karma had it out for him. hitler and stalin living longer lives certainly bears that out.

A stoke or a heart attack isn't "natural cause"; it's a stroke or a heart attack. Dying of a life shortening, pre-existing condition isn't natural cause either.

Natural causes is when you just die, typically due to the infirmaties of old age, but your body can just give out. Had a Staff Sgt in the Marine Corps who just keeled over one day - no distress; no heart failure; just died. natural causes - he was 60. That is extremely rare; 43 is unheard of.

Antitrust32 · #7 03-01-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

A stoke or a heart attack isn't "natural cause"; it's a stroke or a heart attack. Dying of a life shortening, pre-existing condition isn't natural cause either.

Natural causes is when you just die, typically due to the infirmaties of old age, but your body can just give out. Had a Staff Sgt in the Marine Corps who just keeled over one day - no distress; no heart failure; just died. natural causes - he was 60. That is extremely rare; 43 is unheard of.

I would bet that heart attack death would be classified as natural causes. once the autopsy is finished, maybe they would just say heart attack instead of natural causes. But it wasnt a car wreck, or gunshot, or a cancer death, so I can understand the label of "natural causes"

mclem0822 · #8 03-01-2012, 12:38 PM

RIP. I was certainly not a fan of the guy. Last seen by me making a total drunken ASS of himself yelling at Occupiers to " Behave yourselves" and other drivel as they dragged his drunken ass away! The guy was bad news, and epitome of liar journalism ( see the Fixed News Network for definition) gave bloggers a bad name IMO! Maybe the booze did him in. Maybe we find out in a few weeks.

Riot · #9 03-01-2012, 02:21 PM

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RIP. I was certainly not a fan of the guy. Last seen by me making a total drunken ASS of himself yelling at Occupiers to " Behave yourselves" and other drivel as they dragged his drunken ass away! The guy was bad news, and epitome of liar journalism ( see the Fixed News Network for definition) gave bloggers a bad name IMO! Maybe the booze did him in. Maybe we find out in a few weeks.

Ditto. That video shows a hate and anger that permeated his life and work. He's destroyed reputations and lives by his lies, and currently was facing a lawsuit regarding his lying and destroying Shirley Sherrod's reputation, causing her to lose her job.

Here's the thread of him screaming drunkenly and angrily at Occupy protesters at CPAC recently:
http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45570

43 is young. Condolences to his family and friends.

Danzig · #10 03-01-2012, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

A stoke or a heart attack isn't "natural cause"; it's a stroke or a heart attack. Dying of a life shortening, pre-existing condition isn't natural cause either.

Natural causes is when you just die, typically due to the infirmaties of old age, but your body can just give out. Had a Staff Sgt in the Marine Corps who just keeled over one day - no distress; no heart failure; just died. natural causes - he was 60. That is extremely rare; 43 is unheard of.

but i think it is natural causes. it's not unnatural, it's not criminal. it's not normal, but it wasn't an occurrence caused by something.

edit~ just googled it:

A death by natural causes, as recorded by coroners and on death certificates and associated documents, is one that is primarily attributed to natural agents: usually an illness or an internal malfunction of the body. For example, a person dying from complications from influenza (an infection) or a heart attack (an internal body malfunction) would be listed as having died of natural causes. Old age is not a scientifically recognized cause of death; there is always a more direct cause although it may be unknown in certain cases and could be one of a number of aging-associated diseases.

In contrast, death caused by active intervention is called unnatural death. The "unnatural" causes are usually given as accident (implying no unreasonable voluntary risk), misadventure (accident following a wilful and dangerous risk), suicide, or homicide.[1] In some settings, other categories may be added. For example, a prison may track the deaths of inmates due to acute intoxication separately.[2]

bigrun · #11 03-01-2012, 01:25 PM

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but i think it is natural causes. it's not unnatural, it's not criminal. it's not normal, but it wasn't an occurrence caused by something.

edit~ just googled it:

A death by natural causes, as recorded by coroners and on death certificates and associated documents, is one that is primarily attributed to natural agents: usually an illness or an internal malfunction of the body. For example, a person dying from complications from influenza (an infection) or a heart attack (an internal body malfunction) would be listed as having died of natural causes. Old age is not a scientifically recognized cause of death; there is always a more direct cause although it may be unknown in certain cases and could be one of a number of aging-associated diseases.

In contrast, death caused by active intervention is called unnatural death. The "unnatural" causes are usually given as accident (implying no unreasonable voluntary risk), misadventure (accident following a wilful and dangerous risk), suicide, or homicide.[1] In some settings, other categories may be added. For example, a prison may track the deaths of inmates due to acute intoxication separately.[2]

Thanks for clearing that up...

Antitrust32 · #12 03-01-2012, 12:15 PM

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And by the way, nobody dies of "natural causes" at 43 years of age. The autopsy will be enlightening.

lots of people die from heart attacks, strokes, clots, etc in their middle ages.

I believe all of those would be classified under "natural causes"

Then again, he could have been like Rush and had a pill problem that caught up with him. Or it could be a hit. There's a lot of special ops stuff that happens in the US that the citizens have no idea about. Though a hit was probably unlikely.

Antitrust32 · #13 03-01-2012, 12:24 PM

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lots of people die from heart attacks, strokes, clots, etc in their middle ages.

I believe all of those would be classified under "natural causes"

Then again, he could have been like Rush and had a pill problem that caught up with him. Or it could be a hit. There's a lot of special ops stuff that happens in the US that the citizens have no idea about. Though a hit was probably unlikely.

I should clarify this. I don't know if it happens a lot, or what really goes on. But I know it does go on!

Danzig · #14 03-01-2012, 12:31 PM

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I should clarify this. I don't know if it happens a lot, or what really goes on. But I know it does go on!

you must watch a lot of movies!

Antitrust32 · #15 03-01-2012, 12:36 PM

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you must watch a lot of movies!

I do!! But thats not why I know it goes on.

Rudeboyelvis · #16 03-01-2012, 12:35 PM

It isn't natural for a 43 year old man's heart to just stop. It would be attributed to an underlying condition as the cause. Here's how the AMA classifies these things - it is subjective and it would not surprise me in the least if they kept Breitbart's cause of death this way, but that's not to say it's correct:

http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/con...tract/156/1/25