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Old 02-27-2012, 12:39 PM
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You also have to fill out paperwork in order to register to vote. Kind of like when you purchase a gun. Now, if you had to present your gun license to a Game Services Official each time you wanted to fire it, in order to be allowed to fire it, the parallel might fit better.

Taking away felons' right to vote (in some cases, even after they've served their sentence) came into existence post Civil War, in the South. It was just another way to keep blacks from voting. One some states continue to use today.

can't help but wonder if that's far off. as for voting and id, i think the arguments against it are ridiculous. i don't know how anyone over the age of 18 could get by without an id-it's used for so many things these days. and i can't think of many things more important to protect than voting, and making sure it's free as possible from fraud.
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can't help but wonder if that's far off. as for voting and id, i think the arguments against it are ridiculous. i don't know how anyone over the age of 18 could get by without an id-it's used for so many things these days. and i can't think of many things more important to protect than voting, and making sure it's free as possible from fraud.

How bout those dead people in Chicago, will they be able to vote for Obama again?..
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Old 02-27-2012, 01:18 PM
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How bout those dead people in Chicago, will they be able to vote for Obama again?..

Even the dead people in Chicago disapprove of Obama
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Even the dead people in Chicago disapprove of Obama


It's that bad huh...then i'm switching to Rickie boy....if he gets the nod....let it be him - please let it be him....

Click on the 2nd one, Vicki Carr..

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...st=0&FORM=LKVR
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:21 PM
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How many cases of voting fraud, in the national elections, have been prosecuted in the past 20 years? (you can google it)

How many of those cases could have been prevented by having a voter ID? (you can google that, too)

The new voting ID laws attempting to be implemented by ALEC via their Republican hires are intended solely to disinfranchise the elderly, the poor and the non-white before the 2012 election. The Republican party knows how to read demographic profiles.

You know: those folks that tend to vote Democratic.

Voting should always be made more accessible, easier by American citizens. Not harder. That is why the courts are all over these states trying to implement restrictive ID laws.

An interesting explaination about the demographics hastening the extinction of the GOP, for the disbelievers, is here:

"2012 or Never
Republicans are worried this election could be their last chance to stop history. This is fear talking. But not paranoia. Why 2012 is the Republicans last chance."

http://nymag.com/news/features/gop-p...-chait-2012-3/

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The Republican Party is in the grips of many fever dreams. But this is not one of them. To be sure, the apocalyptic ideological analysis—that “freedom” is incompatible with Clinton-era tax rates and Massachusetts-style health care—is pure crazy. But the panicked strategic analysis, and the sense of urgency it gives rise to, is actually quite sound. The modern GOP—the party of Nixon, Reagan, and both Bushes—is staring down its own demographic extinction. Right-wing warnings of impending tyranny express, in hyperbolic form, well-grounded dread: that conservative America will soon come to be dominated, in a semi-permanent fashion, by an ascendant Democratic coalition hostile to its outlook and interests. And this impending doom has colored the party’s frantic, fearful response to the Obama presidency.
"The Lost Party
The strangest primary season in memory reveals a GOP that’s tearing itself apart. How the 2012 Primary has revealed a GOP on the verge of collapse."
http://nymag.com/news/features/gop-p...lemann-2012-3/
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Old 02-27-2012, 01:17 PM
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In IL you not only need to pay for a FOID card but you also have to provide the picture to browse, purchase or even shoot a gun. Until just recently it was also illegal to own a handgun in Chicago (even if it remained in the home). Where's the ACLU?

The constitution (2nd amendment) was thrown out the window and we're arguing about providing id to vote?
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