Tampa Bay Downs 2011-2012 Meet

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

With regard to Ness - I'll be the first to admit that my biased opinion is that he's a scourge and should be dealt with, the same way card counters are dealt with at casinos - unfortunately, the fact remains though that he apparently operates within the confines of the rules and thus is afforded the courtesy of playing within those confines until proven guilty. Catch him, and ban him - they raided his barn last year and apparently found nothing in everything they took.... so Beyer can accuse him all he likes, but there is no crime in winning, and if he can't be caught doing something untoward, then he deserves the right to be considered innocent until proven otherwise.
Consider him as a part of the handicapping landscape - there are a number of angles where he is, actually, remarkably weak - perhaps Beyer needs to spend a little more time with Formulator, and a little less time blaming him for the downturn in handle.

I get wanting to stick up for your home track, I really do. It's respectable and I would do the same.

But you realize Beyer wrote the piece as someone who loves Tampa right? You've got an entire thread here of people who don't know what to do with Ness horses because when a guy is winning at nearly 50% you just can't pitch any of his horses with any confidence from a multi race exotic and your response is Beyer should spend more time with Formulator?

Whether you agree or not, he's one of if not the only journalist in our sport who will write about real topics. I'm not saying everything he says is right, but your criticism here seems misplaced and I say that as someone who respects your opinion a great deal as you know.

I've been looking at Tampa a bit more recently thanks to some peer pressure from Golfer. My one issue is some (not all) of the races are unplayable when Ness has a runner. I'm sure not being on TVG has impacted overall handle, but people avoiding races where Ness is involved has to be a big part of it.

What is so bad about pointing that out?