Gov Walker steals from mortgage settlement fund

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

civil penalties-fines or surcharges imposed by a governmental agency to enforce regulations

And please read what the settlement Wiphan is quoting says the money is to be used for.

It is NOT to be used for the general fund and paying off Walker's deficit. The civil penalties part has to be used for the things listed.

Face it: Mr. "one time fixes from stealing settlement money is bad" Walker is doing the exact same thing he complained about during his campaign: stealing money from his citizens to pay off the deficit he says doesn't exist.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

And please read what the settlement Wiphan is quoting says the money is to be used for.

It is NOT to be used for the general fund and paying off Walker's deficit. The civil penalties part has to be used for the things listed.

It is clearly listed alone and after what the rest of the funds are to be used for, followed by the civil penalties line. Based on what I know about reading comprehension that means it is on its own and not subject to what is mentioned before it.

Any good examples of a Governor?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

It is clearly listed alone and after what the rest of the funds are to be used for, followed by the civil penalties line. Based on what I know about reading comprehension that means it is on its own and not subject to what is mentioned before it.

The above isn't the legal language of the settlement, it's the same summary that is listed on the settlement website and news articles.

You might ask the Governor's Attorney General, who was specially consulted to see if the Governor can take the money and use it outside of what is listed, and who is, aside from the Governor, the only one in the state government saying, "yes, I think it would be legal".

That Walker had to ask his Attorney General - and is NOT consulting the legislature or any other legal advice - shows Walker clearly knows his taking the money is outside the settlement use intentions.

But he has the Koch Brothers American's for Prosperity playing hundreds of thousands of dollars of ads saying Walker balanced the budget, and Walker knows that's a lie, and he has a $140 million deficit - so he's grabbing some of this money to try and cover his tracks before his recall election.

And that is why there is a lawsuit being filed against the Gov and Attorney General for it, on behalf of the citizens of Wisconsin. Because the Governor and Attorney General are beyond the accepted use of the monies, using it to pay off last year's bills, and NOT for housing-related city troubles.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

The above isn't the legal language of the settlement, it's the same summary that is listed on the settlement website and news articles.

You might ask the Governor's Attorney General, who was specially consulted to see if the Governor can take the money and use it outside of what is listed, and who is, aside from the Governor, the only one in the state government saying, "yes, I think it would be legal".

That Walker had to ask his Attorney General - and is NOT consulting the legislature or any other legal advice - shows Walker clearly knows his taking the money is outside the settlement use intentions.

But he has the Koch Brothers American's for Prosperity playing hundreds of thousands of dollars of ads saying Walker balanced the budget, and Walker knows that's a lie, and he has a $140 million deficit - so he's grabbing some of this money to try and cover his tracks before his recall election.

And that is why there is a lawsuit being filed against the Gov and Attorney General for it, on behalf of the citizens of Wisconsin. Because the Governor and Attorney General are beyond the accepted use of the monies, using it to pay off last year's bills, and NOT for housing-related city troubles.

Has the actual settlement even been released yet? I am not finding it anywhere. Plenty of summaries though. If you have a copy of the doc and any applications etc, I would like to see them and what the legal wording looks like.

[Clip-Clop]

Didn't think so.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Didn't think so.

Forgive me for not being on the list at your beck and call in the past half hour. See above.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Forgive me for not being on the list at your beck and call in the past half hour. See above.

Same summary Wiphan quotes, everyone has read this. You however referenced the exact legal language of the settlement, was hoping to see where you were able to read that.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Has the actual settlement even been released yet? I am not finding it anywhere. Plenty of summaries though. If you have a copy of the doc and any applications etc, I would like to see them and what the legal wording looks like.

http://www.nationalmortgagesettlement.com/ is where the entire court case PDF will be put, here's the current executive PDF http://www.atg.wa.gov/uploadedFiles/...ve_Summary.pdf

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

The above isn't the legal language of the settlement, it's the same summary that is listed on the settlement website and news articles.

You might ask the Governor's Attorney General, who was specially consulted to see if the Governor can take the money and use it outside of what is listed, and who is, aside from the Governor, the only one in the state government saying, "yes, I think it would be legal".

That Walker had to ask his Attorney General - and is NOT consulting the legislature or any other legal advice - shows Walker clearly knows his taking the money is outside the settlement use intentions.

But he has the Koch Brothers American's for Prosperity playing hundreds of thousands of dollars of ads saying Walker balanced the budget, and Walker knows that's a lie, and he has a $140 million deficit - so he's grabbing some of this money to try and cover his tracks before his recall election.

And that is why there is a lawsuit being filed against the Gov and Attorney General for it, on behalf of the citizens of Wisconsin. Because the Governor and Attorney General are beyond the accepted use of the monies, using it to pay off last year's bills, and NOT for housing-related city troubles.

Where is THIS?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

The above isn't the legal language of the settlement, it's the same summary that is listed on the settlement website and news articles.

You might ask the Governor's Attorney General, who was specially consulted to see if the Governor can take the money and use it outside of what is listed, and who is, aside from the Governor, the only one in the state government saying, "yes, I think it would be legal".

That Walker had to ask his Attorney General - and is NOT consulting the legislature or any other legal advice - shows Walker clearly knows his taking the money is outside the settlement use intentions.

But he has the Koch Brothers American's for Prosperity playing hundreds of thousands of dollars of ads saying Walker balanced the budget, and Walker knows that's a lie, and he has a $140 million deficit - so he's grabbing some of this money to try and cover his tracks before his recall election.

And that is why there is a lawsuit being filed against the Gov and Attorney General for it, on behalf of the citizens of Wisconsin. Because the Governor and Attorney General are beyond the accepted use of the monies, using it to pay off last year's bills, and NOT for housing-related city troubles.

Where does this statement reference MY language?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Where does this statement reference MY language?

In the post you wrote that I am responding to and referencing in the one you quoted. Keep up here

You made the point about the section reading "some money could be collected as civil penalties" ... and said it was separate, thus not referencing above, etc.; and I responded, "that's not the legal language of the document".

Don't make legal determinations on non-legal settlement agreement language, as Walker has already done, but realizes is dicey, as he only consulted his own Attorney General (the one that declined to investigate his office where the FBI found felonies); and Schneiderman has been all over talking about what the settle can, and can not, be used for.

But yes, we wait for the legal language, and that's why & when Scott Walker will have a lawsuit filed against his use of the funds to fix his budget deficit, rather than "housing related" problems.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Don't make legal determinations on non-legal settlement agreement language, as Walker has already done, but realizes is dicey, as he only consulted his own Attorney General (the one that declined to investigate his office where the FBI found felonies); and Schneiderman has been all over talking about what the settle can, and can not, be used for.

But yes, we wait for the legal language, and that's why & when Scott Walker will have a lawsuit filed against his use of the funds to fix his budget deficit, rather than "housing related" problems.

add Missouri, Pennsylvania, Vermont and possibly California to your imaginary lawsuit.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=147266500

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

add Missouri, Pennsylvania, Vermont and possibly California to your imaginary lawsuit.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=147266500

"Imaginary"? Yet you quote an article that even quotes an attorney general saying it will be opposed, thus it isn't "imaginary" at all?



Yes, Dell - lots of governors and state budgets want to steal this money from the homeowners. Walker isn't the only thief. Use of the money for non-homeowner, non-mortgage related use will be legally fought by many.