Luck

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by richard

In the Paulick Report Cot Campbell bemoans Luck.
" But I think—in the interest of some accuracy—that the attractive, sporting, pageantry side of racing should be given at least a nod."

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/pe...ing-no-favors/

what a terrible letter from cot campbell. "I'm rich, and they arent showing enough classy, rich people on this HBO horse racing show... if horse racing was really like this, classy, rich people like me wouldnt be involved".

barf.

I dont know why people in the racing industry think this show should be promoting all the great things involved with horse racing. If you want that, make a documentary for PBS.

This show is about suspense and drama. The setting is a race track. I think the characters are awesome. If people think this show was made to save the racing industry, they are delusional.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I dont know why people in the racing industry think this show should be promoting all the great things involved with horse racing.

It's just the way it is.

The old-time horse racing press would very commonly write about betting coups and putover situations involving barn money...even in big races.

It would often be written that a horse was either "the medium of a failed betting coup" if the horse with some insider money failed to win ... or it would be called a successful betting coup if the horse won.

There are hundreds and hundreds of examples of this I have seen...and you see a horse called "the medium of a failed betting coup" probably five times for every story about a successful one.

Nowadays, you see a horse like Sassy Image get a flood of obvious barn money from somewhere after a layoff and surgery that went unreported, and it's like taboo to even acknowledge that it happened.

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

It's just the way it is.

The old-time horse racing press would very commonly write about betting coups and putover situations involving barn money...even in big races.

It would often be written that a horse was either "the medium of a failed betting coup" if the horse with some insider money failed to win ... or it would be called a successful betting coup if the horse won.

There are hundreds and hundreds of examples of this I have seen...and you see a horse called "the medium of a failed betting coup" probably five times for every story about a successful one.

Nowadays, you see a horse like Sassy Image get a flood of obvious barn money from somewhere after a layoff and surgery that went unreported, and it's like taboo to even acknowledge that it happened.

The exact same happens in the stock market.They blame "Insider trading" or "Speculators", and fail to realize that it takes an ENORMOUS amount of money to do the things they claim. The crash of 1929 was partially blamed on Jesse Livermore,who did make millions on the crash by shorting the market,but he was not the cause of it.

[Calzone Lord]

I wouldn't compare insider betting in horse racing with the stock market.

I'm not familar with all the rules of the stock market -- but it's perfectly legal in horse racing so long as the connections are betting on their own horse.

Situations involving first-time starters and layoffs are by far the most common situations where inside money might have an edge.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

what a terrible letter from cot campbell. "I'm rich, and they arent showing enough classy, rich people on this HBO horse racing show... if horse racing was really like this, classy, rich people like me wouldnt be involved".

barf.

I dont know why people in the racing industry think this show should be promoting all the great things involved with horse racing. If you want that, make a documentary for PBS.

This show is about suspense and drama. The setting is a race track. I think the characters are awesome. If people think this show was made to save the racing industry, they are delusional.

Excellent post.

If we want to somehow "save" the industry, embracing what we are goes a lot further than pretending it's all puppy dogs and lollipops.

[Many Others]

It was an excellent post - Cot Campbell is getting up there in years, perhaps he really is delusional - and how the hell does he know about the hygiene of Queen Elizabeth and J. Edgar Hoover??? Have known plenty of rich people that stink, literally and figuratively lol..

[richard]

Originally Posted by Many Others

It was an excellent post - Cot Campbell is getting up there in years, perhaps he really is delusional - and how the hell does he know about the hygiene of Queen Elizabeth and J. Edgar Hoover??? Have known plenty of rich people that stink, literally and figuratively lol..

Maybe Cot would like to see Tootsie play Queen Elizabeth in a future episode.

I thought it was stunning when Ace tore the buttons off his shirt in episode 1. There's a lot of rage beneath Ace's cold demeanor.