Romans benched a week for NY bute positive

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Sassy Image was a complete and utter bum before her magic form reversal in the Humana Distaff.

How do you know? She had made all of 2 starts in the previous 15 months.

One of the luckiest breaks I got all year is that I did not bring my Internet card with my laptop to the track that day ... because I would have lost every dollar betting against Sassy Image in the betting exchange that day ... and probably tossed my laptop across the clubhouse.

I remember someone came over to me after that race and told me they bet on Sassy Image and showed me a ticket and I was mad enough to choke them.

Seems to me like you're failing to recognize that in retrospect, Sassy Image made some sense in that race, at least as a contender. She won 2 subsequent stakes following that "miracle". She was injured in the Ballerina, just as she apparently was in the Sabin earlier in the year, and in the Davona Dale in 2010. Draw a line through all those races and how does her form look?

I'm not suggesting you or anyone else should have had her on race day, but with all the subsequent information, Sassy Image turned out to be a good example of the limitations of past performances. I wouldn't doubt there were some astute people at the track who took a gamble that she was better than the Sabin suggested.

Instead of pretending that Romans put one over on everyone, just admit that your handicap of the race was botched and bring a red pen along with your laptop next time.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Instead of pretending that Romans put one over on everyone, just admit that your handicap of the race was botched and bring a red pen along with your laptop next time.

Uh huh.

Her dirt form with Pletcher:




What Sassy Image looked like coming into this race....she stalked a pace that was slow on everyones pace figures and still backed up.




Amen Halliuja had just crushed Sassy's Image by double digit lengths in two of her last three races. Sassy's Image is shorter than her in the betting at one point in a race with a $2 million + plus WPS pool.

Tidal Pool (for the most overbet human connections possible at Churchill) is longer than SI at one point in the betting.




Evening Jewel was beaten a nose in the KY Oaks over the track and came into the race in good form. She's longer at one point.

But yeah. Sassy Image just made so much sense. She hadn't run a Beyer higher than 89 in her career... She hadn't won a race in a year and a half. She just got drowned by 14 lengths stalking a slow pace. How did she not figure to win this Grade 1 by open lengths?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

What Sassy Image looked like coming into this race....she stalked a pace that was slow on everyones pace figures and still backed up.

You're being disingenuous here. We're supposed to be looking at this retrospectively. Obviously one would gather from the fucl<ing 11 month layoff between Feb '10 and Jan '11 that something was amiss with Sassy Image. Are you really taking the Davona Dale at face value?

As for the Sabin, even if we don't know about the wind issue, at the very least, the fact that she was sent to press the front end was atypical of all her previous starts (including her comeback just a month prior). One could suggest that the change of tactics completely backfired, and therefore the race could be tossed. The fact that she was entered in a Grade 1 off the Sabin strengthens that notion.

But yeah. Sassy Image just made so much sense. She hadn't run a Beyer higher than 89 in her career... She hadn't won a race in a year and a half. She just got drowned by 14 lengths stalking a slow pace. How did she not figure to win this Grade 1 by open lengths?

Again, you're being disingenuous. She hadn't won a race in a year because she hadn't run in a race in a fucl<ing year. You know that young horses mature, strengthen, progess, develop, etc. so who gives a sh!t about her 2yo Beyers? If she doesn't have races in her PPs that illustrate this progression then obviously one's hands are tied. But again, Romans saw fit to run her in a Grade 1 off 2 comeback races.

You simply don't want to read between the lines. Or maybe you're just not much handicapper right now.

Try some throat surgery.

[Calzone Lord]

Disingenuous?

You're right. I was being disingenuous all along.

I realized she was slow (everyone else in the fields last race was open lengths faster than her career top) and I realized she hadn't won a race in a year and a half...and I love horses who enter Grade 1's off of layoffs.

Didn't bother me at all... because I read between the lines.

This is a picture of the money I made from betting Sassy Image...I needed to carry it back in bags.



I laid some of it out on my bed...




Tiger Woods fist pump!




I threw a party that night where I invited no one but my laptops and it got out of hand.




Sassy Image!, baby!

Again. She sucked until her throat surgery...there was no published reports of her throat surgery...she was bet... and she did make a gigantic form reversal. Those are all facts. All that race did was sink me in multi-win bets where I singled the 2nd place. I can't say I'm not bitter about it ... but it is what it is.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Sassy Image!, baby!

Again. She sucked until her throat surgery...there was no published reports of her throat surgery...she was bet... and she did make a gigantic form reversal. Those are all facts. All that race did was sink me in multi-win bets where I singled the 2nd place. I can't say I'm not bitter about it ... but it is what it is.

Glad I could be the springboard for more of your megalomania.

I think you're presuming too much about the all important throat surgery. Dale Romans called it "minor". It probably was only significant as it pertains to her Sabin performance.

I highly doubt she won several stakes as a 2yo with a major airway problem.

Using strictly Beyers, off a near year layoff, she ran an 89 when her previous best was a 79. It's not unreasonable to believe she could continue to improve from that starting point. Unfortunately, she didn't have any races between March and May to prove the point. Hence the 16-1 odds.

But whatever, trying to reason it logically sucks compared to arrogant, pig-headed paranoia.

Let's move on to Case 2 and the titanic form reversal of the since deflated Flat Out in last year's Suburban.

Do you think they secretly untwisted a testicle or something? That would hold me back.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Let's move on to Case 2 and the titanic form reversal of the since deflated Flat Out in last year's Suburban.

Do you think they secretly untwisted a testicle or something? That would hold me back.

They did work on his feet.

He had a similar three race magic form reversal before he started to tail off.

[Sightseek]

Best thread we've had in a long time!

[Calzone Lord]

Thursday at Saratoga VS Kenucky Derby undercard.

Sassy Image pays $34.20 to win. A 5-to-1 shot wins the next race and the double pays $474.60 (the parlay is $191)

Aikenite wins the next and pays $28.60. The double with the same 5/1 winner to him pays $164.80 (the parlay is $160)

Pick 4:

$5.40 favorite
$22.60
$8.80
$34.20 (Sassy Image)

That pays $14,416.00

Sassy Image was hammered in the WPS pool in relation to gimmicks. Considering the WPS pool was over $2 million someone bet her.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Glad I could be the springboard for more of your megalomania.

No problem. I'm glad you could help.

Check your PM's though.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Disingenuous?

You're right. I was being disingenuous all along.

I realized she was slow (everyone else in the fields last race was open lengths faster than her career top) and I realized she hadn't won a race in a year and a half...and I love horses who enter Grade 1's off of layoffs.

Didn't bother me at all... because I read between the lines.

This is a picture of the money I made from betting Sassy Image...I needed to carry it back in bags.



I laid some of it out on my bed...




Tiger Woods fist pump!




I threw a party that night where I invited no one but my laptops and it got out of hand.




Sassy Image!, baby!

Again. She sucked until her throat surgery...there was no published reports of her throat surgery...she was bet... and she did make a gigantic form reversal. Those are all facts. All that race did was sink me in multi-win bets where I singled the 2nd place. I can't say I'm not bitter about it ... but it is what it is.

lol