Baffert uncorked another one!

outofthebox · #1 02-11-2012, 03:49 PM

Bodemeister the Empire Maker colt just uncorked a maiden field in 1:34 2/5.

Calzone Lord · #2 02-11-2012, 04:05 PM

Huge maiden win! Empire Maker and the 2nd dam was a deep closing multiple Graded Stakes winning router by A. P. Indy out of a Roberto mare.

Pletcher and Baffert have the market almost cornered so far this winter. Just imagine if Alpha and Out of Bounds went to Dubai like they would have in winters past.

RockHardTen1985 · #3 02-11-2012, 04:58 PM

That was scary good. I bet the other Baffert. Dougie, whats Baffert doing with big $$$ Lapentas? Zito been cut?

RolloTomasi · #4 02-11-2012, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Huge maiden win! Empire Maker and the 2nd dam was a deep closing multiple Graded Stakes winning router by A. P. Indy out of a Roberto mare.

Pletcher and Baffert have the market almost cornered so far this winter. Just imagine if Alpha and Out of Bounds went to Dubai like they would have in winters past.

Sire made 8 total career starts. Dam made 4 total starts (all at 2, and all in stakes races), was scratched from the BC Juvenile Fillies for a throat issue, yet never started again. She's been retired since 2007 but I think this is her first foal.

Welter Weight better moved to the grass to get some relief.

hockey2315 · #5 02-11-2012, 05:25 PM

I thought the Street Sense at AQU was impressive as well. . . crazy late run - granted, early pace was fairly quick. 89 Beyer. . .

Calzone Lord · #6 02-11-2012, 05:42 PM

This Beyer should come back sensational for Bodemeister. It's got a very good shot to be as high as a 105 if they don't play games with it.

Three dirt routes at SA Today:

*Bodemeister wins by 9+ lengths over two of the most hyped up maidens of the meet by the press and on HRTV in race #3. 1:34.45

* All My Chips wins by 4+ lengths with a dream trip in a race where the Beyer par is a 78. All My Chips won with a 73 Beyer last out. 1:44.16 for 8.5 furlongs. The time is like 32 Beyer points slower than Bodemeister's race 30 minutes earlier.

* Tizpat wins at 12/1 in 1:38.52 -- it would be pretty hard to keep this race under a 60. The time is like 42 Beyer points slower than Bodemesiter's race.

Bodemesiter only ran an 82 Beyer in his career debut in Jan...but that was at 5.5 furlongs. The Empire Maker on the top and the A P. Indy/Roberto up close on the bottom combined with the easy loose early lead went a long way in explaining the explosion.

Calzone Lord · #7 02-11-2012, 05:50 PM

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I thought the Street Sense at AQU was impressive as well. . . crazy late run - granted, early pace was fairly quick. 89 Beyer. . .

That race got an 89? A bit surprised it was that high.

asudevil · #8 02-11-2012, 05:52 PM

Loaded!! And there's more coming....

freddymo · #9 02-11-2012, 06:13 PM

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Loaded!! And there's more coming....

Really I will bite..or are you being watched by the man?

blackthroatedwind · #10 02-11-2012, 06:15 PM

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I thought the Street Sense at AQU was impressive as well. . . crazy late run - granted, early pace was fairly quick. 89 Beyer. . .

He sure got an education in his debut.

#11 02-11-2012, 08:05 PM

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He sure got an education in his debut.

Yes, a major key race.

Ocala Mike

Linny · #12 02-11-2012, 08:18 PM

Bodemeister was close to a fast pace at 5.5 in his debut despite a plodders pedigree. He went sub 24 for each fraction today. High cruising speed.

Chad's runner at AQU was greener that the "grass" on the infield but looks to have talent coming out of what looks like the deepest GP MSW of the winter. If he'd changed leads and stayed straight he'd have won by ten.

Calzone Lord · #13 02-11-2012, 08:19 PM

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I thought the Street Sense at AQU was impressive as well. . . crazy late run - granted, early pace was fairly quick. 89 Beyer. . .

This Beyer has to be an error.

The race went 1:45.20 for 8f and 70 yards and got an 89. The NY Bred 3yo stakes race went 1:43.87 at the same distance and got an 81.

Look at how absurd the figures look for this race...

hockey2315 · #14 02-11-2012, 08:26 PM

Ya looks like it. . . runner-up is pretty awful, but I was still visually impressed.

Calzone Lord · #15 02-11-2012, 08:27 PM

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Chad's runner at AQU was greener that the "grass" on the infield but looks to have talent coming out of what looks like the deepest GP MSW of the winter. If he'd changed leads and stayed straight he'd have won by ten.

There have been a few MSW's at GP that I would say were a lot deeper than that race.

The Thunder Moccasin maiden race for instance ... the top four finishers from there are a combined 5-for-5 since...and the winner took a Graded Stakes race at 1-to-5 odds next out.

Calzone Lord · #16 02-11-2012, 08:38 PM

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Ya looks like it. . . runner-up is pretty awful, but I was still visually impressed.

Race #1 went 1/5th of a second faster at the same distance and got a 70 Beyer.

The race is cut loose from the entire card. I just assume this was a case of whoever did the figures mixing the distances up for one race ... I assume he did the figure for that maiden race at 8.5 furlongs instead of the correct distance of 8f and 70 yards.

That fig should be no higher than a 70 tops.

blackthroatedwind · #17 02-11-2012, 09:59 PM

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That race got an 89? A bit surprised it was that high.

I almost wonder if that's a misprint, as if that is the fig, they completely broke the race out, and how does it match for the runners-up?

I see it in Formulator, and will look into it tomorrow, but without an explanation, it is either a misprint, or hard to understand at face value.

Linny · #18 02-11-2012, 10:10 PM

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There have been a few MSW's at GP that I would say were a lot deeper than that race.

The Thunder Moccasin maiden race for instance ... the top four finishers from there are a combined 5-for-5 since...and the winner took a Graded Stakes race at 1-to-5 odds next out.

I did too many tracks today. I was thinking Street Life came out of that race. I stand corrcected. He exited the race Good Morning Diva was in and raced only a short time after that runner won back. Agreed, the Thunder Moccasin race was the best of the GP meet.

Calzone Lord · #19 02-11-2012, 10:17 PM

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I almost wonder if that's a misprint, as if that is the fig, they completely broke the race out, and how does it match for the runners-up?

I see it in Formulator, and will look into it tomorrow, but without an explanation, it is either a misprint, or hard to understand at face value.

Yep. Only thing I can think of is that the figure maker accidently took the final time and applied it to 8.5 furlongs instead of 8f and 70 yards.

I've made mistakes like this before.

cmorioles · #20 02-12-2012, 12:40 AM

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Yep. Only thing I can think of is that the figure maker accidently took the final time and applied it to 8.5 furlongs instead of 8f and 70 yards.

I've made mistakes like this before.

I'm guessing 69 instead of 89, just a typo when entering the number. Surely they have things like you mention automated by now.