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02-05-2012, 12:25 PM
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Would need to be at the Keeneland library.
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02-05-2012, 12:55 PM
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Count Fleet.
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02-05-2012, 01:12 PM
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02-05-2012, 01:14 PM
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It's been documented that he took advantage of a bias -- but General Assembley's Travers was one of the fastest figures ever from a 3yo.
He won the Travers by 15 lengnths over a wet racetrack -- in a track record time that still stands at Saratoga today. * Smarten (off of 6 straight clear wins - 5 of which at the Graded Stakes level - and often giving weight) was 2nd by 15 lengths. He came back with five straight Graded Stakes placings in his next five starts.  * Private Account (a multiple Grade 1 stakes winner. Famously sired two hall-of-famers in Personal Ensign and Inside Information -- and was one of the great broodmare sires I've ever seen) was 3rd by 26 lengths.  * Davona Dale (A champion filly who won 5 Grade 1's that year and won the Kentucky Oaks by 4.5 lengths in 1:47.20 in her other sloppy track start that season) was 4th by 28.75 lengths. She was beaten 3.5 lengths in the Maskette next out. * Steady Growth (The Queen's Plate winner and a next out 2nd in the Prince of Wales one week later) King Green (a next out ALW winner at Belmont a few weeks later) and Screen King (multiple Graded Stakes winner, never ran again) --- this trio was all beaten 30+ lengths. General Assembly 128 Smarten 107 Private Account 91 Davona Dale 87 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ok1e0Yez_s
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02-05-2012, 01:19 PM
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Dougie..
Pull out Gen. Duke & Bold Ruler's races v. one another from FL in late winter '57. Everglades, Bahamas, Flamingo, FL Derby. Should be a pip.
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02-05-2012, 02:38 PM
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02-05-2012, 03:02 PM
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He ran just six times at age 3 - in five stakes races. His wins in the Wood, Derby, Preakness, and Withers - I'm pretty confident are not faster than 114 tops. There are a lot of other races to work with on those cards. The race I think your friend might be refering to - is his 25 length win in the Belmont in his final start. There was another route the day Count Fleet won the Belmont - also at 12fs - it was a MSW race that went 7.20 full seconds slower. However, it was a pretty horrid looking MSW race on paper. Count Fleet only beat two horses in the Belmont...and they both had poor form. The Belmont figure was probably very fast -- but it's the hardest one by far to do from his 3yo races. Whirlaway ran A LOT faster in the Derby. They carded a lot of the same type of races in the Derby in those days.
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