The US Private Healthcare System fails again

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I cannot believe that you would complain to a moderator about my abusive language yet use the same type of language in your posts.

You are a disgrace to disingenuous liberals nationwide. For shame.

just apologize to the board and it'll be ok.

I would like to apologize to the board for calling Riot some of her many nicknames. Many times in the past I have called her these nicknames and she took them with a badge of honor. Now it seems she's gone socially conservative on us.

Oh lawd. Please forgive me. Ah have sinned.

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[Riot]

What the MSNBC story updates show is the biggest ongoing negative of our "private" healthcare system - the most expensive in the world.

This person is covered by her Canadian insurance 100% for out of country problems, but only up to the point that the same services would cost in that country. As our healthcare is the most expensive in the world, even with the revised downward cost total (that's good news), our costs still leave thousands to be privately covered privately.

Thank goodness the fans have more than covered this.

And the typical "who will pay" fight among the insurance companies remain. Let's hope it comes out in favor of the family, and not the insurance companies.

Shows our healthcare costs do need to be addressed - why do our citizens pay much more than every other first world country for healthcare, and yet our quality is not even rated in the Top 25 internationally?

Glad to see that athletes do have national organizations that provide high-risk insurance to them. But obviously, the gap between the national org. not covering her as it wasn't a national org. approved event, sponsors of small events don't buy coverage for the athletes they invite - shines a spotlight on the athletes being left hanging.

as for people here declaring bankruptcy due to medical-people here declare bankruptcy for a variety of reasons. perhaps the bankruptcy laws are too lenient?

Rather than our healthcare being too expensive, and our insurance companies being allowed not to pay what they contracted for?

The overall point is: it's terribly sad that, within our convoluted and expensive private healthcare system, the stories surrounding the unfortunate death of a promising young athlete during sport highlight, not her career, but the intracacies and complications of who can, and cannot, be free of deep concerns about paying for costly medical treatment in the event of sudden life-threatening trauma in America.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

What the MSNBC story updates show is the biggest ongoing negative of our "private" healthcare system - the most expensive in the world.

This person is covered by her Canadian insurance 100% for out of country problems, but only up to the point that the same services would cost in that country. As our healthcare is the most expensive in the world, even with the revised downward cost total (that's good news), our costs still leave thousands to be privately covered privately.

Thank goodness the fans have more than covered this.

And the typical "who will pay" fight among the insurance companies remain. Let's hope it comes out in favor of the family, and not the insurance companies.

Shows our healthcare costs do need to be addressed - why do our citizens pay much more than every other first world country for healthcare, and yet our quality is not even rated in the Top 25 internationally?

Glad to see that athletes do have national organizations that provide high-risk insurance to them. But obviously, the gap between the national org. not covering her as it wasn't a national org. approved event, sponsors of small events don't buy coverage for the athletes they invite - shines a spotlight on the athletes being left hanging.



Rather than our healthcare being too expensive, and our insurance companies being allowed not to pay what they contracted for?

The overall point is: it's terribly sad that, within our convoluted and expensive private healthcare system, the stories surrounding the unfortunate death of a promising young athlete during sport highlight, not her career, but the intracacies and complications of who can, and cannot, be free of deep concerns about paying for costly medical treatment in the event of sudden life-threatening trauma in America.

She was practicing, not an event. Training.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

She was practicing, not an event. Training.

Wow. That adds another layer of confusion with the "non-national org." "sponsored event invite" type of thing.

It's just still a terrible tragedy she lost her life.

And all the stories highlight the convoluted discussion of "who will pay". We shouldn't even need to have that discussion, or there be any worry about it!

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Wow. That adds another layer of confusion with the "non-national org." "sponsored event invite" type of thing.

It's just still a terrible tragedy she lost her life.

I agree with the tragedy, these are my people. Didn't know her personally but I know many people of the ilk.

[Clip-Clop]

I snowboard often. I live very near the most difficult and dangerous mountains in the country. If I get seriously injured and require a lot of care because I choose to risk my life for the sport that I love doing, why should I expect anyone to pick up the tab? The same way a smoker or an obese person should be responsible for themselves and the choices they make, though I would be more likely to die quickly as opposed to being a drain on society for a long time.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I snowboard often. I live very near the most difficult and dangerous mountains in the country. If I get seriously injured and require a lot of care because I choose to risk my life for the sport that I love doing, why should I expect anyone to pick up the tab? The same way a smoker or an obese person should be responsible for themselves and the choices they make, though I would be more likely to die quickly as opposed to being a drain on society for a long time.

Nobody is talking about others "picking up the tab" - it's about paying for insurance, and being covered in the event of tragedy.

Canadians each pay into their system about the percentage of their income that we do for our elder Medicare coverage. Yet they are covered 100% from cradle to grave, and we only use that same amount of money to pay for some services for those 65-68 and older.

I don't want the government to take over providing the actual health care (let that remain private), but why is our healthcare so expensive, and so much isn't paid for, and we have millions that don't even have healthcare access, when every other first world country does it more affordably, completely, and at higher quality?

Because we are the only first-world country that pays private people to insure us, and they only make a profit when they do not pay for what we are contracting! So bass-ackwards ....