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Old 01-18-2012, 02:31 PM
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It's not a good thing to campaign on austerity, then go ahead and needlessly bust unions who have agreed to your austerity measures. Many, many Wisconsin citizens are that upset with this Governor and his legislature. Citizens have been awakened, and are standing up for owning their own democracy, taking it back from politicians.

Wow! They got a million signatures. That is incredible. Just wait to see the fraud that will be exposed with these signatures. It is going to be very interesting. The people collecting these signatures had no boundaries and no ethics. They showed up at a local function where we took our kids to see Santa and his reindeer. You should have seen the looks they got. Fortunately they realized that no one wanted them there and they left within 20 mins. They will have enough to force a recall election at the tune of $9+ million in wasted tax payer money.

So what is going to happen when Walker wins again?
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:41 PM
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So what is going to happen when Walker wins again?
A recount!


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Old 01-18-2012, 02:43 PM
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A recount!


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Nice. The silent majority of WI will speak again and walker will win!
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:52 PM
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Yeah, I guess 900,000 or so of those signatures were phony, right?


Put a fork in Walker.


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Old 01-18-2012, 02:59 PM
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Yeah, I guess 900,000 or so of those signatures were phony, right?


Put a fork in Walker.


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Just because you can get enough people to sign a recall petition with no proof of age, residency, etc doesn't mean that they will actually show up and vote, never mind the fact that more people voted for Walker than signed the recall petition. Good luck. I think this spells doom for the democrats when they lose. Nationally the democratic party didn't want this, but the unions fought for it and they had no choice. Should be fun....
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I surmise by the thread starter this bum is a republican right??? This just seems like more partisan politics from Riot.
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Old 01-18-2012, 03:45 PM
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This guy is the first politician from either party to put the taxpayer's interest ahead of the patronage army known as the Public Sector workforce.

Riot can't handle the truth. At least not the truth about employment numbers in WI.

Walker will win by a larger margin the second time around.

Guaranteed!!!
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Old 01-18-2012, 04:51 PM
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I surmise by the thread starter this bum is a republican right??? This just seems like more partisan politics from Riot.
The bum is a Republican, yes. A man who campaigned saying one thing, then did another. The wholly-owned political puppet of the Koch Brothers, working only to try and pass the ALEC agenda. A sad man who, on the day a historic number of recall petitions were submitted against him, was in New York begging for more out-of-state money - half of Walker's financial support for his recall comes from out of town - from the former head of the disgraced AIG to support his recall fight.
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Old 01-18-2012, 05:05 PM
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Wow! They got a million signatures. That is incredible. Just wait to see the fraud that will be exposed with these signatures. It is going to be very interesting.
What percentage of signatures do you think will be disallowed from the Walker recall petitions?

(Walker recall only, not the five other recalls also submitted. Not the Republican Senate majority leader Fitzgerald, the three other Republican state senators under recall now, or Lt. Governor Klefish now under recall too)

I'll guess, based upon the massive pre-vetting they did as signatures collected, and before they were turned into the GAB, less than 5% will be disallowed, probably more like 1-3%

What is your guess?
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What percentage of signatures do you think will be disallowed from the Walker recall petitions?

(Walker recall only, not the five other recalls also submitted. Not the Republican Senate majority leader Fitzgerald, the three other Republican state senators under recall now, or Lt. Governor Klefish now under recall too)

I'll guess, based upon the massive pre-vetting they did as signatures collected, and before they were turned into the GAB, less than 5% will be disallowed, probably more like 1-3%

What is your guess?
I will take the over on 5%
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Old 01-18-2012, 05:49 PM
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I will take the over on 5%
Naw - be brave and pick a range No under-over.

It's recommended for any recall petition that you get 20-25% extra signatures to account for those proven invalid (see the Republican candidates not on the ballot in Virginia, for example, because they didn't do that).

They needed 520,000, they got just over a million. They vetted the signatures at collection, and by the orgs before they were turned into GAB.

The Scott Fitzgerald recall was done by a different person, on her own.
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Naw - be brave and pick a range No under-over.

It's recommended for any recall petition that you get 20-25% extra signatures to account for those proven invalid (see the Republican candidates not on the ballot in Virginia, for example, because they didn't do that).

They needed 520,000, they got just over a million. They vetted the signatures at collection, and by the orgs before they were turned into GAB.

The Scott Fitzgerald recall was done by a different person, on her own.
Over 20% will be thrown out or disallowed. That is almost 7 times more than your highest figure that you believe will be thrown out
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Over 20% will be thrown out or disallowed. That is almost 7 times more than your highest figure that you believe will be thrown out
Okay. We'll see You are saying that over 200,000 signatures will be invalidated, but that the recall election will still occur. Good luck!

I say that only 10,000 to 30,000 signatures will be disallowed from the Walker petitions, no more than 50,000 max.

Dell? Nebrady? Care to step up?
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Okay. We'll see You are saying that over 200,000 signatures will be invalidated, but that the recall election will still occur. Good luck!

I say that only 10,000 to 30,000 signatures will be disallowed from the Walker petitions, no more than 50,000 max.

Dell? Nebrady? Care to step up?
Would you like to sign my petition to Recall the GIANTS?
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The people collecting these signatures had no boundaries and no ethics. They showed up at a local function where we took our kids to see Santa and his reindeer. You should have seen the looks they got. Fortunately they realized that no one wanted them there and they left within 20 mins.
Do you have a link for that?
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Old 01-18-2012, 07:21 PM
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The people collecting these signatures had no boundaries and no ethics. They showed up at a local function where we took our kids to see Santa and his reindeer. You should have seen the looks they got. Fortunately they realized that no one wanted them there and they left within 20 mins.

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Do you have a link for that?
Try this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ7OR...eature=related
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In bid to unseat Wisconsin governor, whither the challengers?By Brendan O'Brien | Reuters – 3 hrs ago

MILWAUKEE (Reuters) - Critics of Wisconsin's Governor Scott Walker showed on Tuesday how unpopular he is with many voters, filing more than 1 million signed petitions -- nearly twice the number needed -- to force the first-term Republican to defend himself in a special election.

On Wednesday, they faced what is likely to be a harder task: finding a Democrat who can beat the battle-tested 44-year-old.

"There is no single preeminent candidate," said Charles Franklin, a political scientist and visiting professor of law and public policy at Marquette University, said of the Democrats who might challenge Walker, who gained a national following in leading a successful push to curb Wisconsin's public unions.

Although some Democrats have hinted in recent weeks they might be interested in running against Walker in a recall, so far no one with a marquee name has committed to what is sure to be a bruising fight. No date has been set for the election.


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"If Walker is reelected and Republicans are energized because of this, that will have an impact in the presidential race," Sabato said. "I bet if the White House had their druthers the recall would not be happening."


and this gem:

According to a Government Accountability Board report, processing recall petitions will cost the state more than $650,000. The total cost of recall elections for the state and municipalities may be more than $9 million, according to estimates from board officials.
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:15 AM
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Walker camp is toying with the idea of not challenging the recall signatures. This way the recall can be expedited. Should be interesting to see which route they go. Either long drawn out challenge or just quick no fight certification by the GAB. It is a hard call because they want to expose the amount of fraud with the recall signatures, but it may be in their best interest to just get this over quickly and get on with the Democratic primary and election.
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Old 01-19-2012, 03:20 PM
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Walker camp is toying with the idea of not challenging the recall signatures. This way the recall can be expedited. Should be interesting to see which route they go. Either long drawn out challenge or just quick no fight certification by the GAB. It is a hard call because they want to expose the amount of fraud with the recall signatures, but it may be in their best interest to just get this over quickly and get on with the Democratic primary and election.
You're saying that Walker, instead of not facing a recall election, would rather choose to cost the state "$9 million dollars" to hold a recall election, plus risk losing his seat?

And he says the GAB is corrupt and will allow half a million "fake" signatures through?

Wow - interesting course of action you say the Governor is considering there

Pretend the signatures are fake, but submit to the recall election costing the state $9 million anyway?

Of course the Walker camp will not challenge the recall. He's already been challenging it legally, and has GAB working more diligently, so he doesn't even have to personally pay for people cross checking signatures.

Don't you keep up with what's happening there? After all, you live there, and I do not.

Walker would have to throw nearly half a million signatures out as invalid. Not likely, considering the petition signature gatherers were trained, checked the petitions when they were signed, the petitions were cross-checked for accuracy before even being submitted (in case the Walker people who went on the internet bragging they were going to destroy petitions, be false gatherers, submit repetitive false names, etc. did get some petitions submitted)

After all, these same people have already successfully recalled two of five Republican state officials. They know how to submit valid recall petitions.

Now Walker has a recall election. His second will be recalled, too, to keep him from just appointing her if he loses. Three Senators, too.

And then, separately, one Wisconsin woman spearheaded the recall of the Senate Majority Leader, and got enough signatures. An amazing feat that One Wisconsin didn't even try to do, as they didn't think it could be done. But she did it on her own.

Falk declared, but I think it will be Barrett, he polls the best against Walker. Be sure to vote!
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Don't you keep up with what's happening there? After all, you live there, and I do not.

Not likely, considering the petition signature gatherers were trained, checked the petitions when they were signed, the petitions were cross-checked for accuracy before even being submitted !
If you lived there you'd realize either the Dems did a fabulous job training the homeless or your above statement is par for the course when commenting on anything WI. Total bull crap!
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