No true college champ again bcs is a joke!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's not that anyone thinks it's bad. it's the money. if the money was to equal to what's getting thrown at schools now, it would change in a heart beat. until that happens, playoff won't happen.

also there are still questions about how to figure out who gets in the playoffs. good teams could get left out and bad ones in if they go with conference winners. under that scenario, alabama wouldn't have made a playoff this year.

otoh,go by rankings, you have conferences with no representation at all. right now bcs rules prohibit having multiple bcs bowls with teams from one conference. that's why arkansas didn't get a bcs bowl this year-two teams from the sec were already going.

so-do they want the best teams, or go by division winners? either way, some teams will get left out, some will get in who 'don't deserve it'. so, still not exactly 'fair'. if you go by rankings, you still have people voting to help control their opponent, or their own ranking. saban voted okla state lower than anyone else place them, which helped his team remain in second by a razor-thin margin. ok st coach gundy didn't even have a vote.

A playoff will bring in far more money than the current system. It isnt even really debatable. The problem is a few people currently are calling all the shots and people hate to concede power. There is no perfect system but one where the 8 best teams make it in regardless of affiliation is a start. If you want to use some sort of a poll and computer mix you could start by using a far better and more transparent computer system and polling system. This is so simple on the surface. Sure you have contracts to deal with and will probably have to still tie in the big bowls as sites but it can be done. The BS about the coaches liking the bowl system is ridiclous. And I still dont know why if there is a playoff the other **** bowls cant still be played? What really changes is the BCS bowls are simply what they should be, steps to the final destination. Seriously if you make the Fiesta, Orange, Cotton and Gator/ Capital One Bowl/Chick fil-a bowl the 1st round, The Sugar and Rose bowls the 2nd round the the NC game the college Super Bowl what is the problem?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

A playoff will bring in far more money than the current system. It isnt even really debatable. The problem is a few people currently are calling all the shots and people hate to concede power. There is no perfect system but one where the 8 best teams make it in regardless of affiliation is a start. If you want to use some sort of a poll and computer mix you could start by using a far better and more transparent computer system and polling system. This is so simple on the surface. Sure you have contracts to deal with and will probably have to still tie in the big bowls as sites but it can be done. The BS about the coaches liking the bowl system is ridiclous. And I still dont know why if there is a playoff the other **** bowls cant still be played? What really changes is the BCS bowls are simply what they should be, steps to the final destination. Seriously if you make the Fiesta, Orange, Cotton and Gator/ Capital One Bowl/Chick fil-a bowl the 1st round, The Sugar and Rose bowls the 2nd round the the NC game the college Super Bowl what is the problem?

my thinking is if the money is to be had by changing, it would happen. a lot of programs fund a lot of college stuff outside of football. more money would be a good thing for those schools.
i also have to think that some conferences wouldn't want it to be the best teams go. currently you have conferences with guaranteed spots in the big bowls. they don't want that to go away-that makes that big money go away- from them. look at the last few years, and what teams have finished in the top ten. look at who hasn't been the last however many years. there's been a shift, and it's leaving traditional schools out in the cold. that's why they made that push for automatic bids, so that no big conference loses out on that money. i don't think they want that auto bid to go away. if it doesn't go away, the playoff system wouldn't be any better than what we have currently.

i can see a plus one coming...that's about it. still think this year that it would have resulted in bama-lsu.


boise st was griping about automatic bids. i bet that griping doesn't happen next year, when they win one of those auto bid conferences!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

my thinking is if the money is to be had by changing, it would happen. a lot of programs fund a lot of college stuff outside of football. more money would be a good thing for those schools.
i also have to think that some conferences wouldn't want it to be the best teams go. currently you have conferences with guaranteed spots in the big bowls. they don't want that to go away-that makes that big money go away- from them. look at the last few years, and what teams have finished in the top ten. look at who hasn't been the last however many years. there's been a shift, and it's leaving traditional schools out in the cold. that's why they made that push for automatic bids, so that no big conference loses out on that money. i don't think they want that auto bid to go away. if it doesn't go away, the playoff system wouldn't be any better than what we have currently.

i can see a plus one coming...that's about it. still think this year that it would have resulted in bama-lsu.


boise st was griping about automatic bids. i bet that griping doesn't happen next year, when they win one of those auto bid conferences!

The problem is the current powers that be would rather take a bigger cut from a smaller pie and it is hard to believe that many of them arent making money personally from this set up. Regardless of what angle you take the thing that continues to come through is that this setup allows for far too much corruption and leaves far too much to chance. But we are going to see changes not because we all bitch but because no one watched the Orange or Sugar bowls and the Championship game's ratings were down as well. Bowl attendance was down this year as average bowl attendance hit a 33 year low. The BCS games tv ratings were down 21% from 2009 partly because of moving to ESPN from Fox but they were down 10% from last year.

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...hqP_story.html

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...hqP_story.html

like i said, i can see a plus one-which is another way of saying four team playoff. and there's obviously time like the article says-the break between games is crazy.