John Kerry WHY?!

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

John Kerry is a hero, and not an elitist. His background in his formative years will attest to that fact despite that yes he was in fact rich and privilaged

You are completely clueless if you think he is a hero. He is nothing more than an opportunist.

WHO BRINGS A CAMERA CREW WITH HIM TO GO AND FIGHT A WAR?

WHO GOES OUT AND FINDS THE RICHEST WIDOW IN WASHINGTON?

WHO IS SO STUPID HE COULDN'T EVEN BEAT GEORGE BUSH?

WHO IS NOTHING MORE THAN A LITTLE PAWN FOR THE CORRUPT SENATOR KENNEDY THAT KILLED A GIRL AND RAN OFF?

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by Revolution

You are completely clueless if you think he is a hero. He is nothing more than an opportunist.

WHO BRINGS A CAMERA CREW WITH HIM TO GO AND FIGHT A WAR?

WHO GOES OUT AND FINDS THE RICHEST WIDOW IN WASHINGTON?

WHO IS SO STUPID HE COULDN'T EVEN BEAT GEORGE BUSH?

WHO IS NOTHING MORE THAN A LITTLE PAWN FOR THE CORRUPT SENATOR KENNEDY THAT KILLED A GIRL AND RAN OFF?

you forgot he dated Jackie's sister only to meet President Kennedy

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Revolution

You are completely clueless if you think he is a hero. He is nothing more than an opportunist.

WHO BRINGS A CAMERA CREW WITH HIM TO GO AND FIGHT A WAR?

WHO GOES OUT AND FINDS THE RICHEST WIDOW IN WASHINGTON?

WHO IS SO STUPID HE COULDN'T EVEN BEAT GEORGE BUSH?

WHO IS NOTHING MORE THAN A LITTLE PAWN FOR THE CORRUPT SENATOR KENNEDY THAT KILLED A GIRL AND RAN OFF?

Oh my god, you're right! How DARE a Democrat be rich? How DARE HE? Only Republicans are allowed to be rich! Democrats who are rich are evil hypocrites! Republicans who are rich are God's chosen! How dare Kerry! How dare he??????

Um, actually, McCain married a rich woman, too, and he wasn't even divorced when he hooked up with his second wife. At least Kerry wasn't committing adultery (since the Republicans seem pretty obsessed with what other people do in the bedroom). McCain's second wife's money funded his early campaigns.

Though, sadly, I have no snappy comeback for how he could have lost to Bush, other than maybe Americans are very susceptible to, "Elect a Democrat and the terrorists will KILL you," which seems to be the Republicans' campaign slogan for the past six years. Kerry was a rotten candidate; I agree with you, Rev. But I voted for him, and had I to do it again, I'd vote for him over Bush again. Heck, I'd vote for a Fresca over Bush.

And I still say those who think he was talking about the soldiers are wrong, wrong, wrong. It was a Bush dig. But it's just as well he's hiding out for the rest of the campaign. We need divided government and we need it badly- this single party crap has seriously screwed up our long-term stability (ballooning deficit, anyone?). The Dems don't need any more of Kerry trying out his stand-up act before Tuesday...

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Oh my god, you're right! How DARE a Democrat be rich? How DARE HE? Only Republicans are allowed to be rich! Democrats who are rich are evil hypocrites! Republicans who are rich are God's chosen! How dare Kerry! How dare he??????

Um, actually, McCain married a rich woman, too, and he wasn't even divorced when he hooked up with his second wife. At least Kerry wasn't committing adultery (since the Republicans seem pretty obsessed with what other people do in the bedroom). McCain's second wife's money funded his early campaigns.

Though, sadly, I have no snappy comeback for how he could have lost to Bush, other than maybe Americans are very susceptible to, "Elect a Democrat and the terrorists will KILL you," which seems to be the Republicans' campaign slogan for the past six years. Kerry was a rotten candidate; I agree with you, Rev. But I voted for him, and had I to do it again, I'd vote for him over Bush again. Heck, I'd vote for a Fresca over Bush.

And I still say those who think he was talking about the soldiers are wrong, wrong, wrong. It was a Bush dig. But it's just as well he's hiding out for the rest of the campaign. We need divided government and we need it badly- this single party crap has seriously screwed up our long-term stability (ballooning deficit, anyone?). The Dems don't need any more of Kerry trying out his stand-up act before Tuesday...

There you go. Go attacking the other guys and look the other way for your guy. I expect this from Republicans, but now it has become the Democrats move too. We need a third party for honest, normal people.

Nothing wrong with Democrats being rich, but Kerry isn't just rich, he is an elitist. Bill Clinton wasn't rich and that is why he did a good job. He understood normal people. FDR was loaded but he connected with average people. You can't be President of the United States if you are an elitist like Kerry. He talks like an elitist that thinks he knows everything. The fact is he isn't even that bright. The real problem with Kerry though is that he won't go away. GO AWAY!

If you heard him on Don Imus this morning he was a joke. Imus had to tell him 20x to just shut up and go away. This guy wants to be President and he is getting humiliated by Don Imus.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Revolution

There you go. Go attacking the other guys and look the other way for your guy. I expect this from Republicans, but now it has become the Democrats move too. We need a third party for honest, normal people.

Nothing wrong with Democrats being rich, but Kerry isn't just rich, he is an elitist. Bill Clinton wasn't rich and that is why he did a good job. He understood normal people. FDR was loaded but he connected with average people. You can't be President of the United States if you are an elitist like Kerry. He talks like an elitist that thinks he knows everything. The fact is he isn't even that bright. The real problem with Kerry though is that he won't go away. GO AWAY!

If you heard him on Don Imus this morning he was a joke. Imus had to tell him 20x to just shut up and go away. This guy wants to be President and he is getting humiliated by Don Imus.

Rev, what exactly makes him an elitist, besides Fox News saying he is? Where does he say poor people suck, or deserve to be poor, or any of the things I would associate with elitism? He's a crummy speaker, no doubt, and yeah, he has a problem with coming across like he thinks he knows more than the other guy about politics (Gore was guilty of this, too, I thought), but that doesn't have anything to do with elitism-- half the people who post on this board have that same attitude when it comes to racing, and no one is calling them elitist. Kerry is a policy wonk, and gets complex issues-- and then, because he's a crummy speaker, can't explain them. Unfortunately, he's also got zero charisma, and Clinton and FDR had charisma to spare. I think sometimes that absolute radiation of charisma is what makes people respond to a candidate. I think this "elitist" label is one the GOP likes to throw around at Dems to get people angry at them. Bush is every bit as much of an "elitist" as Kerry-- he's a Connecticut blueblood, after all, but the GOP, by seeming to celebrate willful ignorance (in what other nation would a leader not be crucified for saying he doesn't read the news?), can then toss the elitist label at their opponents- "Hey, no need to know what's going on; that makes you a blue-state elitist!" Reminds me of picking on the smart kids in school, really.

I brought up McCain because I'm tired of the "how dare a Dem be rich" thing. I apologize if you thought I was trying to change the topic-- I was uncertain how Kerry marrying rich had anything to do with his comments yesterday or his candidacy in '04, but you brought it up. I suspect you and I both don't care much who anyone marries, rich or not, but you know, Teresa Heinz Kerry's money was a HUGE topic of the '04 elections, while McCain's wife's money wasn't in '00, nor has Bush's family's money ever been an issue. It always seems to be just the Dems who get blamed for having it. What I was trying to say is, take it off the table; both sides have men who married well.

I liked Clinton and FDR, too. And, to bring up the other party, TR was pretty darn good at connecting with the general public, too, don't you think?

As always, I enjoy your posts!

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Rev, what exactly makes him an elitist, besides Fox News saying he is? Where does he say poor people suck, or deserve to be poor, or any of the things I would associate with elitism?

Fox News is full of idiots, but an elitist is somebody who thinks he knows what is best for everyone. Saying poor people suck isn't elitist, it is just somebody who lacks compassion. There are plenty of elitist people that aren't wealthy, they make up a large proportion of professors on college campuses. They have all the answers and love free speech as long as the free speech is what they believe.

Kerry acts like the people that join the military only do it because they are stupid and don't know any better. He seems to have all the answers to everything that is best for people and we need him to protect us from our own stupidity. He also comes across as very uncomfortable around average americans. His calling Lambeau field Lambert field didn't exactly help him. His saluting and reporting for duty garbage at the Democratic convention was so fake it wasn't funny. I don't think he is a bad person, like a Dick Cheney, but he is an elitist, and he probably doesn't even know it.

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Look no arguing Kerry is an idiot, but he did not say poor people suck. He was making a joke, albeit a poorly constructed one at the current administrations decision to get us involved in Iraq. Honestly all different types of people make up our armed forces, just like America, all types.

I am still waiting for you to show me where all the mistakes were in my above post.

I don't think Kerry feels poor people suck, but he definitely has an issue with members of our armed services. I am sure he feels they are idiots because they voted in large numbers for Bush and not him. He is an elitist snob, always has been. That is his reputation among people in Washington. It is understandable, he is married to a billionaire and he himself is a trust fund kid connected to the Forbes family.

Hey, if I owned a 6 floor, $7 million townhome in Boston's Beacon Hill Neighborhood, a $9 million oceanfront home on Nantucket, a $5 million ski retreat in Idaho, a $4 million estate near Teresa's hometown of Pittsburgh, and a $5 million home in Washington, D.C.'s Georgetown neighborhood and a $1 million yacht and a $35 million Gulf Stream Jet, I would be an elitist too. It is human nature.