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Old 01-05-2012, 11:25 AM
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I don't know what more this horse has to do to win this year...

No one else deserves it. Period.
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Old 01-05-2012, 12:21 PM
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What, no HOY finalists?
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Old 01-05-2012, 12:24 PM
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What, no HOY finalists?
More than 3 horses got a vote.
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Old 01-05-2012, 12:32 PM
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Never Retreat isn't even a finalist in her division.

That's ridiculous.
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Old 01-05-2012, 12:57 PM
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Midwest Thoroughbreds, really?
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Old 01-05-2012, 01:53 PM
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Never Retreat isn't even a finalist in her division.

That's ridiculous.
Are you suggesting 5 Graded Stake wins over the course of a full year of campaigning is more meaningful than a 28-1 Breeders' Cup win?

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Old 01-05-2012, 05:34 PM
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More than 3 horses got a vote.
They always wait til the night of to announce HOY finalists. I don't see what 3+ horses getting votes would have to do with anything. I'm sure other categories had more than 3 nominees. I guess they figure HOY finalists would also be finalists in some other category and show up to the dinner based on that.
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Old 01-07-2012, 12:16 PM
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Kyle Frey
Rosario Montanez
Ridiculously, there is a re-vote coming for Apprentice because stats sent out for Montanez included his post-bug journeyman results.

(I'll reserve my comments for radio next week. Some voter/pundits really distinguished themselves in their discussion of this topic earlier today.)
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Ridiculously, there is a re-vote coming for Apprentice because stats sent out for Montanez included his post-bug journeyman results.

(I'll reserve my comments for radio next week. Some voter/pundits really distinguished themselves in their discussion of this topic earlier today.)
Honestly Steve, that's probably the right thing to do. Let's face it, I'm guessing that some voters aren't too savy, so most of the basis for voting for this particular award is stats.
I'll admit that I have never heard of Montanez. I've heard of Frey but couldn't honestly tell you what circuit he's on. Since I'm from the area, I have heard of Curatolo. I don't have a vote so it doesn't matter. But what percentage of voters could honestly tell you they are familiar with all three and their individual bodies of work during this past season? To give Montanez extra wins, placings and showings post bug is really unfair, especially when the stats are probably the biggest basis on a person's vote.
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Old 01-07-2012, 01:31 PM
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Ridiculously, there is a re-vote coming for Apprentice because stats sent out for Montanez included his post-bug journeyman results.

(I'll reserve my comments for radio next week. Some voter/pundits really distinguished themselves in their discussion of this topic earlier today.)
Can they just scrap the award already?
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Old 01-07-2012, 06:06 PM
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Can they just scrap the award already?
I wish they'd do that with the handicapper of the year or rather "handicapper" of the year.

Tax Ruling said to please remind you that he was the only one to win 2 G1s this year.

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