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Old 12-27-2011, 07:24 PM
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its a shame that an owner, a trainer and many bettors lost out because of a riders reputation. there has to be a better way to deal with poor riding tactics. if the horse didnt lose a placing due to another jock, what justification can there be for a change in order? saying thats life is no explanation. its in everyones best interest that stewards get it right. there needs to be protocol and it needs to be followed, with consequences for incorrect calls.
Any other sport, an inexperienced athlete gets sent down to the minors to learn the game. There should be some sort of level of competence when riding horses in big circuits.
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:28 PM
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Any other sport, an inexperienced athlete gets sent down to the minors to learn the game. There should be some sort of level of competence when riding horses in big circuits.
That would lead to 3 horse fields in KY, NY and Cali, and add to the already starving jocks at Beulah, Mountaineer, Zia Park ('sup Ken Tohill)
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:29 PM
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That would lead to 3 horse fields in KY, NY and Cali, and add to the already starving jocks at Beulah, Mountaineer, Zia Park ('sup Ken Tohill)
Kev, It sounds like the jockey colonies at your favorite tracks are about to get a lot better.
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:31 PM
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Kev, It sounds like the jockey colonies at your favorite tracks are about to get a lot better.
As long as Jose Ferrer stays the hell away from TBD, I don't give a rats bunghole who moves their tac.
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:40 PM
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I actually think Rajiv Maragh is a pretty good rider. He's made some really poor decisions in 2 races and luckily no one has been seriously injured as a result. But I feel as though that is the exception rather than the rule on him.
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:55 PM
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That would lead to 3 horse fields in KY, NY and Cali, and add to the already starving jocks at Beulah, Mountaineer, Zia Park ('sup Ken Tohill)
There are certainly better jockeys at these lower level tracks that would ride circles around jokes like Maylan Studart, Alonso Quinonez, Joe Steiner, Jose Espinoza, Jore Chavez, Agapito Delgadillo
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:03 PM
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There are certainly better jockeys at these lower level tracks that would ride circles around jokes like Maylan Studart, Alonso Quinonez, Joe Steiner, Jose Espinoza, Jore Chavez, Agapito Delgadillo
I could ride better than 5 of the 6 you mentioned. I happen to like Quinonez on the turf.
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:16 PM
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I could ride better than 5 of the 6 you mentioned. I happen to like Quinonez on the turf.
I'm with you Quinonez, actually, on either surface.
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:29 PM
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I could ride better than 5 of the 6 you mentioned. I happen to like Quinonez on the turf.
Chavez and Jose Espinoza would clean up at a place like Tampa. Alonso Quinonez would win the riding title by a landslide. Delgadillo would be dangerous if they carded some 870 yd races.
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:32 PM
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Chavez and Jose Espinoza would clean up at a place like Tampa. Alonso Quinonez would win the riding title by a landslide. Delgadillo would be dangerous if they carded some 870 yd races.
I don't disagree with any of that, especially this year. Weakest colony in quite some time.
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:50 PM
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Chavez and Jose Espinoza would clean up at a place like Tampa. Alonso Quinonez would win the riding title by a landslide. Delgadillo would be dangerous if they carded some 870 yd races.
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I don't disagree with any of that, especially this year. Weakest colony in quite some time.
Homemeister 7%, Luis Gonzalez 0%.... Daniel Coa 18%, The Guid, over 20%.... Over/Under on Centeno's return when they start riding 5 days a week? My bet is 5 minutes, give or take...

Quinonez would win the riding title here, I agree completely... Espinoza is as average as the rest of this colony - Delgadillo would improve with better horses IMO, but is no better than Mike Allen
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:51 PM
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I don't disagree with any of that, especially this year. Weakest colony in quite some time.
I'm shocked watching Tampa races seeing the number of jocks that still try to save ground on the far turn...the rail is death
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Old 12-27-2011, 09:43 PM
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Any other sport, an inexperienced athlete gets sent down to the minors to learn the game. There should be some sort of level of competence when riding horses in big circuits.
true.
of course if enough of his rides end up with horses getting taken down, he'll lose mounts in a hurry. but that doesn't help the owners, trainers, bettors. give him days if he's reckless. moving a horse up that doesn't deserve a better placing isn't exactly justified.
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