Gulfstream DQ 12/26 Race 8

Kasept · #1 12-27-2011, 06:31 AM

Hossy and Andy have plenty to be pissed about. This is the worst kind of objection/decision.. where a horse going nowhere is brushed or sideswiped by an onrushing runner yet is given a placing by the stewards out of the inquiry. Cruz and Saturday Launch -- who were all over the place -- actually jumped out into the path of Argentine Tango ahead of the incident. These are 2yo's in a turf race. There's going to be some hijinks and the stewards do horseplayers no favor interjecting themselves in a result where the contact had no affect on the outcome.

Hoss.. We're off this week, but will have Ritvo on plenty when doing the show from GP in a few weeks. But how much can track management do when the judges react to things in this manner?

Alan07 · #2 12-27-2011, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Hossy and Andy have plenty to be pissed about. This is the worst kind of objection/decision.. where a horse going nowhere is brushed or sideswiped by an onrushing runner yet is given a placing by the stewards out of the inquiry. Cruz and Saturday Launch -- who were all over the place -- actually jumped out into the path of Argentine Tango ahead of the incident. These are 2yo's in a turf race. There's going to be some hijinks and the stewards do horseplayers no favor interjecting themselves in a result where the contact had no affect on the outcome.

And the thing is there wasn't an inquiry to begin with! It only got looked at by Cruz's late objection.

Is it me or does there seem to be many objections on a daily basis at GP this year?

#3 12-27-2011, 07:13 AM

Maragh is notorious for riding all over the place.

MisterB · #4 12-27-2011, 07:47 AM

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Maragh is notorious for riding all over the place.

He reminds me of the taxi cab drivers in the Phillippines. 8-9path to the 2 and 3 path in 2 seconds. Only person who should be pissed is Stanley Gold for the great ride he got.

Dahoss · #5 12-27-2011, 10:42 AM

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Only person who should be pissed is Stanley Gold for the great ride he got.

The ride he got yesterday was miles better than the one the horse got in his previous race. But don't we as bettors have a right to be mad when we get screwed like this?

MisterB · #6 12-27-2011, 11:10 AM

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The ride he got yesterday was miles better than the one the horse got in his previous race. But don't we as bettors have a right to be mad when we get screwed like this?

He is reckless and doesn't care about what he could have done to others in the race. This was a warning shot across his bow. He cost Animal Kingdom and could have injured many more with his profound bull ring riding antics. His reputation precedes him. I have been mad as hell with many calls too. You never hear a peep though when it goes the other way. You live and die with what we get, some good, some bad.

MaTH716 · #7 12-27-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterB

He is reckless and doesn't care about what he could have done to others in the race. This was a warning shot across his bow. He cost Animal Kingdom and could have injured many more with his profound bull ring riding antics. His reputation precedes him. I have been mad as hell with many calls too. You never hear a peep though when it goes the other way. You live and die with what we get, some good, some bad.

But why punish the bettors? Couldn't they just give him days and leave the horse up?

3kings · #8 12-27-2011, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterB

He is reckless and doesn't care about what he could have done to others in the race. This was a warning shot across his bow. He cost Animal Kingdom and could have injured many more with his profound bull ring riding antics. His reputation precedes him. I have been mad as hell with many calls too. You never hear a peep though when it goes the other way. You live and die with what we get, some good, some bad.

Would you feel the same way if your son hadn't recieved a better placing?

Dahoss · #9 12-27-2011, 10:40 AM

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Hoss.. We're off this week, but will have Ritvo on plenty when doing the show from GP in a few weeks. But how much can track management do when the judges react to things in this manner?

I hear ya. I guess I'm just looking for an explanation from someone at Gulfstream for this kind of stuff. At least with NYRA you get the stewards corner on their website that provides explanations for better or worse.

blackthroatedwind · #10 12-27-2011, 10:50 AM

Penalizing bettors in this manner is bad for the game. The game depends on asking people to solve puzzles in order to continue playing the game. When haphazzard calls deprive people from receiving the fruits of their hard work you only discourage people from playing. There was zero justice served by yesterday's call and plenty of unjust punishment.