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Old 12-19-2011, 10:07 PM
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11. Who?

“I don’t even know who this woman is.” — Businessman Herman Cain on Sharon Bialek, the woman accusing him of sexual harassment.

10. Blinding him with science.

“To be clear. I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy.” — Former Utah governor Jon Huntsman via Twitter on the debate over climate change within the GOP presidential primary field.

9. The government is me.

“I am the government.” — New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo on being the government.

8. Palin-ism.

“Journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn.” — Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin responding via Facebook to the attempted assassination of Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

7. Ubekistan.

“When they ask me who is the president of Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan I’m going to say, you know, I don’t know. Do you know?” — Herman Cain on foreign policy.

6. Re-writing history — and not in a good way.

“You’re the state where the shot was heard around the world in Lexington and Concord.” — Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann.....in New Hampshire.

5. They’re made of people!

“Corporations are people, my friend.” — Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney in response to hecklers at the Iowa State Fair.

4. GTL

“Get the hell off the beach...you’ve maximized your tan.” — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) warning sunbathers to flee Hurricane Irene.

3. Facts are funny things.

“His remark was not intended to be a factual statement.” — Spokesman for Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) regarding the senator’s claim that abortions accounted for more than 90 percent of what Planned Parenthood does.

2. Certainly not certain.

“I can’t say with certitude.” — Then Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) on whether a lewd picture was, in fact, him.

1. One word says it all.

“Oops”. — Texas Governor Rick Perry at the end of a 50-plus second (unsuccessful) attempt to remember the third federal agency he would eliminate if elected president.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv_ms93dzX4 Barry oh Barry
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:19 AM
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" I would put our legislative and foreign policy accomplishments in our first two years against any president -- with the possible exceptions of Johnson, F.D.R., and Lincoln -- just in terms of what we've gotten done in modern history"


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/pj-glad...greatest-presi
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:43 AM
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Ror!!

" I would put our legislative and foreign policy accomplishments in our first two years against any president -- with the possible exceptions of Johnson, F.D.R., and Lincoln -- just in terms of what we've gotten done in modern history"


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/pj-glad...greatest-presi

that is hilarious. i'd say the guy is lacking in perspective at best...completely historically ignorant and in la-la land at worst.
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that is hilarious. i'd say the guy is lacking in perspective at best...completely historically ignorant and in la-la land at worst.
KROFT: Tell me, what do you consider your major accomplishments? If this is your last speech. What have you accomplished?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, we're not done yet. I've got five more years of stuff to do. But not only saving this country from a great depression. Not only saving the auto industry. But putting in place a system in which we're gonna start lowering health care costs and you're never gonna go bankrupt because you get sick or somebody in your family gets sick. Making sure that we have reformed the financial system, so we never again have taxpayer-funded bailouts, and the system is more stable and secure. Making sure that we've got millions of kids out here who are able to go to college because we've expanded student loans and made college more affordable. Ending Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Decimating al Qaeda, including Bin Laden being taken off the field. Restoring America's respect around the world.

The issue here is not gonna be a list of accomplishments. As you said yourself, Steve, you know, I would put our legislative and foreign policy accomplishments in our first two years against any president -- with the possible exceptions of Johnson, F.D.R., and Lincoln -- just in terms of what we've gotten done in modern history. But, you know, but when it comes to the economy, we've got a lot more work to do. And we're gonna keep on at it.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/pj-glad...#ixzz1h6RXg0Sw

So, Obama does not claim to be the "4th greatest president" at all (that's an outright lie) but simply lumps himself in against all the other presidents first two years, other than the excellent exceptions he lists, that he puts above himself.

Wow. You guys really dig deep to try and justify your dislike of the President.
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Old 12-20-2011, 01:17 PM
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Default Politifact Obama promises accomplished

Or positively in the works (just a representative sampling):

Expand Veterans Centers in rural areas
Fully fund the Combating Autism Act and Federal Autism Research Initiatives
Increase special operations forces and civil affairs
End the use of torture
Urge China to stop manipulation of its currency value
Reform the patent system
Increase the size of the Army and Marine Corps
Launch robust diplomatic effort with Iraq and its neighbors
End the "Stop-loss" program of forcing troops to stay in service beyond their expected commitments
Expand federal bioforensics program for tracking biological weapons
Expand housing vouchers program for homeless veterans
Restore the government's ability to manage contracts by rebuilding our contract officer corps
Create a tax credit of $500 for workers
Eliminated Medicare donut hole
Covered Medicare recipients with better preventive healthcare
Killed Osama bin Laden
Killed most of Al Quaeda leadership
Ended war in Iraq
Prevented country from going into depression
Saved American auto industry
Killed Somali pirates, saved hostages
Tried to close Guantanamo (blocked by states)
Restrict warrantless wiretaps
Lowered taxes
Seek verifiable reductions in nuclear stockpiles
Require more disclosure and a waiting period for earmarks
Secure the borders (immigrant deportation at all time high)
Provide a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants
Saved millions in government money by eliminating bank middlemen for student loans
Expanded student loan program so more students covered
Reform mandatory minimum sentences
Secure nuclear weapons materials in four years
Ended Don't Ask, Don't Tell
Strengthen antitrust enforcement
Sign a "universal" health care bill
If you don't have insurance, or don't like the insurance you have, you'll be able to choose a new plan on a health insurance exchange
Create 5 million "green" jobs
Create new financial regulations
Reduce oil consumption by 35 percent by 2030

Four more years pretty much in the bag against the "competition" at this point. Unless you want to give up your Medicare and Social Security to private investment or health companies to manage, stop helping people who are poor & disabled, keep the US down in the upper 20's regarding educational level, and start another war with Iran.

Choose freely when you vote. Unless you've lost your right to vote, as 5 million will, due to restrictive new GOP voter registration laws.
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:32 PM
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Or positively in the works (just a representative sampling):

Expand Veterans Centers in rural areas
Fully fund the Combating Autism Act and Federal Autism Research Initiatives
Increase special operations forces and civil affairs What?
End the use of torture
Urge China to stop manipulation of its currency value This is an accomplishment? They havent
Reform the patent system lol
Increase the size of the Army and Marine Corps So on one hand yoy complain about military spending but on the other you laud increases in the size of the military?
Launch robust diplomatic effort with Iraq and its neighbors What? lol
End the "Stop-loss" program of forcing troops to stay in service beyond their expected commitments
Expand federal bioforensics program for tracking biological weapons
Expand housing vouchers program for homeless veterans
Restore the government's ability to manage contracts by rebuilding our contract officer corps
Create a tax credit of $500 for workers
Eliminated Medicare donut hole
Covered Medicare recipients with better preventive healthcare
Killed Osama bin Laden
Killed most of Al Quaeda leadership
Ended war in Iraq
Prevented country from going into depressionsure he did
Saved American auto industrysure he did
Killed Somali pirates, saved hostagessinglehandedly
Tried to close Guantanamo (blocked by states)This is an accomplishment?
Restrict warrantless wiretaps
Lowered taxes Once again you want it both ways
Seek verifiable reductions in nuclear stockpiles Which president hasnt?
Require more disclosure and a waiting period for earmarks
Secure the borders (immigrant deportation at all time high)So deportment is at an all time high yet just underneath he created a path for those he decided not to deport? lol
Provide a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants
Saved millions in government money by eliminating bank middlemen for student loans
Expanded student loan program so more students covered
Reform mandatory minimum sentences
Secure nuclear weapons materials in four years what?
Ended Don't Ask, Don't Tell
Strengthen antitrust enforcement
Sign a "universal" health care bill
If you don't have insurance, or don't like the insurance you have, you'll be able to choose a new plan on a health insurance exchange
Create 5 million "green" jobsWhere? China?
Create new financial regulationslol
Reduce oil consumption by 35 percent by 2030Wow he is good he is already doing things in 2030

Four more years pretty much in the bag against the "competition" at this point. Unless you want to give up your Medicare and Social Security to private investment or health companies to manage, stop helping people who are poor & disabled, keep the US down in the upper 20's regarding educational level, and start another war with Iran.

Choose freely when you vote. Unless you've lost your right to vote, as 5 million will, due to restrictive new GOP voter registration laws.
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:41 PM
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Ror!!

" I would put our legislative and foreign policy accomplishments in our first two years against any president -- with the possible exceptions of Johnson, F.D.R., and Lincoln -- just in terms of what we've gotten done in modern history"


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/pj-glad...greatest-presi
for one, he didn't mention washington, who had to invent the presidency from scratch from beginning to end. he also showed that a president could willingly relinquish power-something never before seen. i'd put him above obama in a nanosecond.
then there's polk-not ever mentioned as a great president, but he added more land to this country than any other president, including jefferson with the la purchase. polk is who was in office when we accepted texas as a state, signed the treaty that annexed california, new mexico, az. settled the border dispute with great britain regarding oregon and washington. in four years no less. i'd rank him above the egotist.
andrew jackson, definitely. no other president has an era named after him. or a party. he had both.
there's more, but that's a start right off the top of my head.

now, i'd put barack over jimmy carter and buchanan right now....that's about it. maybe harding?
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To rank a President, one must allow time to pass...things often appear quite differently as more history is written.
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To rank a President, one must allow time to pass...things often appear quite differently as more history is written.
true, but you might want to remind obama of that!
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true, but you might want to remind obama of that!
I laughed
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