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[clyde]

YA!!










Anyways...you can't do this stuff on purpose.

No one's that good.

[horseofcourse]

Baltimore is about 20 points better at home than on the road. I'd say that spells Baltimore 44 Cleveland 10 this week. (I'll be in Ohio-ie for Christmas to visit relatives, I may have to listen to Donovan and Dieken for old times sake, are they still on radio??) Robert Griffin here we come!! Please. AFter one game Wallace runs a better offense and throws a better deep ball than Colt. Please, please draft a qb.

[clyde]

But you know, it's funny.... for all that ...it was the same game they have played almost all season long.



Automatic Otto couldn't help us.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by clyde

But you know, it's funny.... for all that ...it was the same game they have played almost all season long.



Automatic Otto couldn't help us.

Exactly...I don't think there is any difference between the starting qb and the backup qb for the most part. There is nothing entertaining at all about the Browns. Robert Griffin is an A+ athlete with an A+ arm who actually seems like a good guy too. You get him at all costs if at all possible. Jax still plays Indy again this year meaning the Browns can actually get up to the 4 spot in the draft. Indy takes Luck, and the Rams and Vikings allegedly have qb's already. He is their guy...it has to be done. He alone will make a massive difference simply for aesthetics. I would actually look forward to seeing what they do next year.

[clyde]

If it were me, and I know it's not..... would look for offensive lineman.Good ones.It would be nice to have 5 for a change instead of 2.

I like the potential of the defense...but it needs lb's, another corner and a free safety.


Aesthetics,yes...like the word.It works.I'm maybe one of the few who thinks this ''franchise qb" phrase is over hyped.Get another qb here, yes....but at the top I would look for those I mentioned as far as the draft goes.


But I hate the WC offense and don't care for Mr. Rogers and lately the same for Holmgrem..whatever his name might be.








Phooey.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by clyde

If it were me, and I know it's not..... would look for offensive lineman.Good ones.It would be nice to have 5 for a change instead of 2.

I like the potential of the defense...but it needs lb's, another corner and a free safety.


Aesthetics,yes...like the word.It works.I'm maybe one of the few who thinks this ''franchise qb" phrase is over hyped.Get another qb here, yes....but at the top I would look for those I mentioned as far as the draft goes.


But I hate the WC offense and don't care for Mr. Rogers and lately the same for Holmgrem..whatever his name might be.








Phooey.

They've been trading down for so long, I would look later for the other positions. They got Joe Thomas pretty high and he's been pretty good from all accounts. They took a corner (Haden very high in another draft) They traded down twice....got Alex Mack who is ok at center from what I've heard, traded down last year passing on Julio Jones who is really good at wideout and got Phil Taylor who is ok I guess, that Sheard they got in the 2nd round is a pretty good pass rusher. They do have Atlanta's first rounder this year from the trade down last year and that is when I go O lineman or the defensive help.

I just think it's time to do it. Cam Newton's gonna be real good no matter what you think of him. Matthew Stafford is real good now...Matt Ryan is real good now...even Alex Smith is pretty good right now...I rarely see very high drafted qb's completely fail. Tim Couch was never as bad as he was made out to be (that's another story for another day!), and Brady Quinn is long past. It's time to stop being afraid of high drafted qb's.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

They've been trading down for so long, I would look later for the other positions. They got Joe Thomas pretty high and he's been pretty good from all accounts. They took a corner (Haden very high in another draft) They traded down twice....got Alex Mack who is ok at center from what I've heard, traded down last year passing on Julio Jones who is really good at wideout and got Phil Taylor who is ok I guess, that Sheard they got in the 2nd round is a pretty good pass rusher. They do have Atlanta's first rounder this year from the trade down last year and that is when I go O lineman or the defensive help.

I just think it's time to do it. Cam Newton's gonna be real good no matter what you think of him. Matthew Stafford is real good now...Matt Ryan is real good now...even Alex Smith is pretty good right now...I rarely see very high drafted qb's completely fail. Tim Couch was never as bad as he was made out to be (that's another story for another day!), and Brady Quinn is long past. It's time to stop being afraid of high drafted qb's.

But what is a real highly rated qb going to do here!!?

There's nothing for him to do!


I don't follow NFL too much.I said what I did about Newton to piss off Dahla...which I enjoy.


Thomas has been ProBowl/AllPro just about every year. Mack made ProBowl first year.Haden is generally recognized as one of he best cb's in the AFC.The other picks are doing well on defense.

I do think just as many high profile qb's guys fail as don't......and many were'nt high picks who do make it big.

Not suggesting a trade down,but to me ...going with a qb at 1 and wide outs( especially) at 2-4 don't make any sense on this team.