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Old 10-31-2006, 03:20 PM
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The only glaring problem with the 24 races is the Secretariat. That race is restricted to 3 year-olds, but it will provide an automatic berth to a 3+up race in the BC Turf?? That race isn't going to produce a Kitten's Joy every year.
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Old 10-31-2006, 03:23 PM
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The only glaring problem with the 24 races is the Secretariat. That race is restricted to 3 year-olds, but it will provide an automatic berth to a 3+up race in the BC Turf?? That race isn't going to produce a Kitten's Joy every year.

good point. why not the sword dancer run on the same day?
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Old 10-31-2006, 03:27 PM
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Why are the Juvenile Fillies left out of it?
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Old 10-31-2006, 03:36 PM
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Why are the Juvenile Fillies left out of it?
Not enough races for Juvy fillies?
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Old 10-31-2006, 08:03 PM
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It is completely meaningless. Most, if not all, of the winners of these races can run if they so desire anyway.
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Old 10-31-2006, 08:08 PM
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it would be nice if they could use bc-sponsored races to get more racing done each year by top horses. keep the dodging all year from happening, as well as 4 race seasons....maybe a points system, and you had to have a certain amount to run, gained by running in other races in a series.
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Old 10-31-2006, 08:13 PM
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It is completely meaningless. Most, if not all, of the winners of these races can run if they so desire anyway.
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That's what Crist had to say about it. But I still think in certain situations it could figure in final entries. Especially if a field is overdrawn, and there has been a freak 80-1 winner of a race, causing another horse to just miss on the points. Granted, he would probably be selected by the committee, but then that would knock another "bubble" horse out at the committee level. Kind of like in the college BB tournament, when a mid-major conference underdog wins the conference tournament. Somebody who is likely better can get bumped.

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Old 10-31-2006, 08:58 PM
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That's what Crist had to say about it. But I still think in certain situations it could figure in final entries. Especially if a field is overdrawn, and there has been a freak 80-1 winner of a race, causing another horse to just miss on the points. Granted, he would probably be selected by the committee, but then that would knock another "bubble" horse out at the committee level. Kind of like in the college BB tournament, when a mid-major conference underdog wins the conference tournament. Somebody who is likely better can get bumped.
Right. It sounds like a good idea until you look at some of the races. Like the Pat O'brien is a Gr 2 going 7f at Del Mar that will be the automatic entry over the Bing Crosby Gr 1 at the same track going the BC distance of 6 f ? Or the Vanderbilt being the Saratoga automatic entry over the Forgeo? Sometimes you tweak something too much and you create problems where none existed previously.
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Old 10-31-2006, 03:27 PM
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The only glaring problem with the 24 races is the Secretariat. That race is restricted to 3 year-olds, but it will provide an automatic berth to a 3+up race in the BC Turf?? That race isn't going to produce a Kitten's Joy every year.
Actually, I think that is a positive. It turns the Secretariat into a championship race for the 3yo turf horses. The winner earns a spot in the BC Turf even if the 3yos are much weaker than the older horses so it is very enticing for everyone to run and be at their best. Regardless, I am pretty sure with the currect selection mehtod that there would never be a scenario where the G1 Secretariat winner would be excluded from the BC Turf field.
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