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[horseofcourse]

This directly reminds me of a philosophical argument from Robert Nozick about fairness

(sporty threads on physics boards are quite fun!)

[horseofcourse]

With Einstein maybe it was circumstance that brought him to prominence. Not that he wasn't bright or didn't apply himself or that he would have not worked harder than anyone else either - just that he came upon his insights as regards to the problems he was looking at predisposed through his experience to grasp them.

Would his mind born to an Australian aborigine living a life of walkabout subsistence have contributed at all to mathematics and physics?


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Aug4-08, 05:42 PM #54
K.J.Healey


Posts: 639 Re: Gorillas should be America's professional football players

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Some people are born with an amazing ability for music, and some small fraction of those go on to make more than average salaries because of it.
Some people are born with above average height, and some VERY VERY SMALL fraction of those go on to make more than average salaries because of it.
Some people are born with above average intelligence, and some small fraction of those go on to make more than average salaries because of it.

Some people are born with above average INSERT HERE, and some SMALL FRACTION of those go on to make very large, above average salaries.

how about this one :
The top 100 jockeys earned between $2.8 and $22.2 million in 2004, or an average of $5.7 million.

I call UNFAIR! Why should they make so much money just for being short?

Sticky, you should think things through more. I feel like you argue with very little world experience or research into your ideas. (shortsighted)

(and as you see a thread which the first post was a thoughtful one about gorillas being NFL players eventually became about Einstein and Jockeys. Physics sporty threads, my new hobby!!)

[horseofcourse]

A group of gorillas playing against the best football players in history would be like the football players at the #1 college football team in the country playing against a bunch of ten year old kids. Intelligence won't matter. No matter what play you run, the gorillas could squash humans like a bug.

This is not a correct comparison, you're assuming the gorillas are BETTER than a college football team (not just in size, but skill). This is not so.

If you're going to compare something, do it right

The situation is more like taking a body builder, and saying they would be good at golf, because they should be able to, with a little training, out-drive any normal human. This doesn't work though. There's a lot more to it than just drives. Get it?

There's a lot more to football than just smashing people. Have you ever played tackle football?

[horseofcourse]

Ok, here's how I kill this thread.

If team owners knew people were willing to pay to watch gorillas play football it would've been done ages ago. Cheaper to pay 100 bananas per season to a dumb gorilla with limited rights. Oh wait, what's that? That's the voice of thousands of enraged hippies demanding gorilla rights. Then owners would be forced to go back to humans thus forcing another one of you to create a post about how some other animal can play football.

Dolphins have higher mathematical skills than humans. They just don't have the hands to write stuff down!

^ makes as much sense as football-playing gorillas.

[horseofcourse]

...and the final post on the gorillas playing NFL sporty thread on the physics forum was this classic...



Rome lasted approximately 900 years. I am not correcting you to make a point about the merits or demerits of sports. I just don't like it when people are ignorant about history. I would correct you no matter what your opinion is on sports.

By my count you are both wrong on the duration of Rome. It should start with Romulus and end with the fall of Constantinople. A degraded state is a state afterall, we aren't talking of how long ago Great Britain went defunct now aren't we. So from Romulus (753 BC) to the Fall of Byzantium to the Ottomans (1453 AD) I think you should be a bit closer to 2206 years give or take.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

...and the final post on the gorillas playing NFL sporty thread on the physics forum was this classic...



Rome lasted approximately 900 years. I am not correcting you to make a point about the merits or demerits of sports. I just don't like it when people are ignorant about history. I would correct you no matter what your opinion is on sports.

By my count you are both wrong on the duration of Rome. It should start with Romulus and end with the fall of Constantinople. A degraded state is a state afterall, we aren't talking of how long ago Great Britain went defunct now aren't we. So from Romulus (753 BC) to the Fall of Byzantium to the Ottomans (1453 AD) I think you should be a bit closer to 2206 years give or take.

aaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

[horseofcourse]

Wisconsin Whitewater 3
Mount Union 0

start of 2nd half...didn't know they were playing tonight...it's on EVPN2, may have to watch a little bit.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Ok, here's how I kill this thread.

If team owners knew people were willing to pay to watch gorillas play football it would've been done ages ago. Cheaper to pay 100 bananas per season to a dumb gorilla with limited rights. Oh wait, what's that? That's the voice of thousands of enraged hippies demanding gorilla rights. Then owners would be forced to go back to humans thus forcing another one of you to create a post about how some other animal can play football.

Dolphins have higher mathematical skills than humans. They just don't have the hands to write stuff down!

^ makes as much sense as football-playing gorillas.

nnnnnnnnnnnno!!

[clyde]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

With Einstein maybe it was circumstance that brought him to prominence. Not that he wasn't bright or didn't apply himself or that he would have not worked harder than anyone else either - just that he came upon his insights as regards to the problems he was looking at predisposed through his experience to grasp them.

Would his mind born to an Australian aborigine living a life of walkabout subsistence have contributed at all to mathematics and physics?


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Aug4-08, 05:42 PM #54
K.J.Healey


Posts: 639 Re: Gorillas should be America's professional football players

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Some people are born with an amazing ability for music, and some small fraction of those go on to make more than average salaries because of it.
Some people are born with above average height, and some VERY VERY SMALL fraction of those go on to make more than average salaries because of it.
Some people are born with above average intelligence, and some small fraction of those go on to make more than average salaries because of it.

Some people are born with above average INSERT HERE, and some SMALL FRACTION of those go on to make very large, above average salaries.

how about this one :
The top 100 jockeys earned between $2.8 and $22.2 million in 2004, or an average of $5.7 million.

I call UNFAIR! Why should they make so much money just for being short?

Sticky, you should think things through more. I feel like you argue with very little world experience or research into your ideas. (shortsighted)

(and as you see a thread which the first post was a thoughtful one about gorillas being NFL players eventually became about Einstein and Jockeys. Physics sporty threads, my new hobby!!)

Oh my God.