ESPN flashes their racing acumen and affinity..

[tector]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

ESPN has an on the air guy named Stuart Scott.

That's all that needs to be said about ESPN.

He makes me long for Ken Rudolph.

You have longings for Ken Rudolph?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by tector

You have longings for Ken Rudolph?

Yes.

That's how bad Stuart Scott is.

Hey Trent, how is it that I'm so annoying?

Hey Steve, how did he throw that pass to the receiver?

Booyah!

Yes, I long for Ken Rudolph. At least KR knew he was a buffoon. SS actually thinks he's witty.

[King Glorious]

I always hear the complaints about ESPN and their coverage and while it's not the greatest and could use some work, I don't think it's nearly as bad as people on here make it out. I also don't see networks tripping over themselves for the broadcast rights to racing.

I think complaining that the guys didn't know where Laurel is located is really petty. I'd bet if you went to Hollywood Park or Santa Anita or any track west of the Mississippi, the high majority of fans also wouldn't know. Probably a good number of them east of the river wouldn't either.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I always hear the complaints about ESPN and their coverage and while it's not the greatest and could use some work, I don't think it's nearly as bad as people on here make it out. I also don't see networks tripping over themselves for the broadcast rights to racing.

I think complaining that the guys didn't know where Laurel is located is really petty. I'd bet if you went to Hollywood Park or Santa Anita or any track west of the Mississippi, the high majority of fans also wouldn't know. Probably a good number of them east of the river wouldn't either.

This isn't what people are upset about.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I always hear the complaints about ESPN and their coverage and while it's not the greatest and could use some work, I don't think it's nearly as bad as people on here make it out. I also don't see networks tripping over themselves for the broadcast rights to racing.

I think complaining that the guys didn't know where Laurel is located is really petty. I'd bet if you went to Hollywood Park or Santa Anita or any track west of the Mississippi, the high majority of fans also wouldn't know. Probably a good number of them east of the river wouldn't either.

Couldn't be bothered to read the Rees piece before commenting, eh?

[Cannon Shell]

I dont see why racing people get riled up about people outside of racing saying flippant things about it when so many inside the game gleefully knock it and many of its participants at every chance.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont see why racing people get riled up about people outside of racing saying flippant things about it when so many inside the game gleefully knock it and many of its participants at every chance.

Do people in racing gleefully discuss horses being sent to slaughterhouses?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Do people in racing gleefully discuss horses being sent to slaughterhouses?

Depends on who you are talking about. The owner of the horse in question has no issues with it. Go to any track and you will hear people talking about glue factories and alpo. The point I was making is that the sport and people in it feel free to rip it and expose dirty laundry (even stuff that isnt really dirty) at the drop of a hat so dont be shocked when those outside the game do the same.

The guy was trying unsucessfully to be clever. It didn't work. I would think that we should be more concerned that a sports reporter (or whatever they are called) who obviously doesnt follow racing would buy so into the sterotype of the game he tried to joke about it. No different than Wilbons anti-racing/horse rants each year. The game does a terrible job of presenting itself. Until that changes nothing else will either.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Depends on who you are talking about. The owner of the horse in question has no issues with it. Go to any track and you will hear people talking about glue factories and alpo. The point I was making is that the sport and people in it feel free to rip it and expose dirty laundry (even stuff that isnt really dirty) at the drop of a hat so dont be shocked when those outside the game do the same.

The guy was trying unsucessfully to be clever. It didn't work. I would think that we should be more concerned that a sports reporter (or whatever they are called) who obviously doesnt follow racing would buy so into the sterotype of the game he tried to joke about it. No different than Wilbons anti-racing/horse rants each year. The game does a terrible job of presenting itself. Until that changes nothing else will either.

Sharp post in a NON Vic way

[blackthroatedwind]

In fairness to King Glorious.....it was a VERY long article.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Depends on who you are talking about. The owner of the horse in question has no issues with it. Go to any track and you will hear people talking about glue factories and alpo. The point I was making is that the sport and people in it feel free to rip it and expose dirty laundry (even stuff that isnt really dirty) at the drop of a hat so dont be shocked when those outside the game do the same.

The guy was trying unsucessfully to be clever. It didn't work. I would think that we should be more concerned that a sports reporter (or whatever they are called) who obviously doesnt follow racing would buy so into the sterotype of the game he tried to joke about it. No different than Wilbons anti-racing/horse rants each year. The game does a terrible job of presenting itself. Until that changes nothing else will either.

It was the characterization of "gleefully" that I disagreed with. Have people involved in racing always talked about the "glue factory" and that type of stuff? Sure.

However, do you really think the game presents itself as a slaughter fest where horses who are retired are either sent to stud or killed? That was EXACTLY what Stan Verrett said and it made for what at least audibly seemed like a weird exchange with his co-anchor.

There's no publicity of organizations like Old Friends and/or Remember Me Rescue because people don't give a s.hit in the mainstream media. It's easier to take the position that racing is full of horse killers and heartless bastards who have no regard for the animals that they simply wager on and use.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Do people in racing gleefully discuss horses being sent to slaughterhouses?

No so many in racing could give a darn if the pig in the barn went to the slaughter house.

[King Glorious]

No Steve, I didn't. Perhaps I should have. My response was more towards the people on here and other racing forums for every perceived injustice we get from the national media. As Cannon Shell said, among ourselves (meaning fans as well as people involved in the sport), we can and do say much worse than any ESPN people do. It's sort of like how you can talk bad about a family member but if anyone outside of the family does it, it's cause for a fight.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by freddymo

No so many in racing could give a darn if the pig in the barn went to the slaughter house.

pig as in slow horse, or as in bacon? i'm not sure, if it's the latter, why you seem stuck on pointing out that horses belong in the same level as food sources. we don't eat horses, dogs or cats in this country. those animals generally exist on a different level in our minds. whether right or wrong, that's just how it is. i've never had a pet cow or chicken or given them a name, or took one for a walk. they aren't companion animals, they are food. horses aren't which might explain why many, but not all, people take offense at lighthearted jabs about their fates. when we start giving year end bessie awards, or foghorn leghorn awards, and setting up hall of fames for hamburgers, then you might have a point.

if it was the former, many do care if a slow horse ends up in a kill pen. they deserve better than that, even if they aren't quite fast enough to win money.