Never Retreat: It's Not Over Yet

RockHardTen1985 · #1 12-13-2011, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Did I say it was a good trip? No. I said she shouldn't have been odds-on. Wide trip or not, she didn't run like she was 4-5.

Nevertheless, I'll play devil's advocate. It was another one of your magical wide, no cover trips in a small field. She was 2 wide into the first turn and then remained 2-wide drafting in behind Quiet Oasis down the backstretch. Leparoux took her out one path entering the stretch and she had no punch, all out just to collar the hopeless Quiet Oasis and the fading Unbridled Humor.

I predict she will fail to run like a 1-5 shot in the Grade 3 Marshua's River, too.

You have responded to a bunch of nothing, but please respond to this because now you have peeked my interest. What exactly does this mean "another one of your magical wide, no cover trips in a small field"
If your implying I dont know how to watch a race then Ill take offense to that. Maybe 6 years ago when I was here as pg1985 I did not know better. At this point I think I have watched enough races, read enough and hung around enough people and places like this to know a bad trip. You dont want to be wide with no cover on the turf. Im also 100% sure Im not the only one who did not like her trip. I think her trip was mentioned on the National Racing Report also. Ill stand by this.... wide with no cover in that press position is the worst place to be during a race. I have always felt that way and nothing will change that. More often then not you see a horse in that position look loaded turning for home to have absolutely
nothing when its time to run.

RolloTomasi · #2 12-13-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

You have responded to a bunch of nothing, but please respond to this because now you have peeked my interest. What exactly does this mean "another one of your magical wide, no cover trips in a small field"

Mr. Commons in the Del Mar BC Mile.

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If your implying I dont know how to watch a race then Ill take offense to that. Maybe 6 years ago when I was here as pg1985 I did not know better. At this point I think I have watched enough races, read enough and hung around enough people and places like this to know a bad trip. You dont want to be wide with no cover on the turf. Im also 100% sure Im not the only one who did not like her trip. I think her trip was mentioned on the National Racing Report also.

I agree I've been responding to a bunch of nothing; this is more of the same. Once again, I never said her trip was ideal. I simply said her post time odds were out of whack. Regardless, she wasn't particularly wide. I don't buy the excuse that her trip explains her utter failure at odds-on.

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Ill stand by this.... wide with no cover in that press position is the worst place to be during a race. I have always felt that way and nothing will change that.

So says RockHardTen1985. But what would the 6-year old pg1985 have said?

RockHardTen1985 · #3 12-13-2011, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Mr. Commons in the Del Mar BC Mile.

I agree I've been responding to a bunch of nothing; this is more of the same. Once again, I never said her trip was ideal. I simply said her post time odds were out of whack. Regardless, she wasn't particularly wide. I don't buy the excuse that her trip explains her utter failure at odds-on.

So says RockHardTen1985. But what would the 6-year old pg1985 have said?

If I knew how to do quotes like this I would, but I dont.... Lets start with Mr. Commons you were wrong then and your wrong now. Simple enough, right? I guess we are fighting about nothing then, because I said her odds were to low also. I said she should have been around 7-5. I guess we are fighting about $3.60 and $4.40?? I wont even respond to the last comment.

RolloTomasi · #4 12-13-2011, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

If I knew how to do quotes like this I would, but I dont....

Maybe in another 6 years then...

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Lets start with Mr. Commons you were wrong then and your wrong now.

Why am I wrong? Mr. Commons still hasn't done anything of consequence to suggest that it was the trip did him in at Del Mar.

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Simple enough, right? I guess we are fighting about nothing then, because I said her odds were to low also. I said she should have been around 7-5. I guess we are fighting about $3.60 and $4.40??

You said she was a tad overbet. I said she was way overbet. You kept making excuses for her, citing her brutal trip. I said she didn't deserve to be odds-on. I said her trip wasn't as bad as some would let on.

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I wont even respond to the last comment.

Just did.

RockHardTen1985 · #5 12-13-2011, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Maybe in another 6 years then...

Why am I wrong? Mr. Commons still hasn't done anything of consequence to suggest that it was the trip did him in at Del Mar.

You said she was a tad overbet. I said she was way overbet. You kept making excuses for her, citing her brutal trip. I said she didn't deserve to be odds-on. I said her trip wasn't as bad as some would let on.

Just did.

Ill be closer to 30 in another 6 years, hopefully I got it down by then.
Im not going back into the Mr. Commons thing. He got a bad trip, it was typical Mike Smith. Like I said you were wrong then, and still wrong. Actually Im not sure why you even brought it up now, because you had to know then you were wrong. Nothing of consequence? When could he have done anything, I thought he ran OK in the BC Mile. He is likely the best miler in the country right now, who exactly is better in America? Gio Ponti is gone, Courageous Cat is gone... Who does Mr. Commons have to beat?