Timmy Ice Tebow...

Hasn't it always been a QB league? Come on man.

I know all of the talking points.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Hasn't it always been a QB league? Come on man.

I know all of the talking points.

So what should the response be? How much credit should he get?

I assume you watched the game...was that a good performance? I think what people (for the most part) are saying is that yes he is contributing, but he isn't the sole reason they are winning, which is what is being fed to people.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

So what should the response be? How much credit should he get?

I assume you watched the game...was that a good performance? I think what people (for the most part) are saying is that yes he is contributing, but he isn't the sole reason they are winning, which is what is being fed to people.

The thing about it though, and it's all stuff that can't be proven one way or the other, but it sure as hell seems like the team in general is playing more inspired football. With the exception of the Detroit game, they are playing with 100% more confidence and that has to have something to do with them thinking the guy playing QB can help them win.

Quite simply, how many teams change QBs, trade their best receiver, install an offense that most think will never work in the NFL, and win 7 of 8 games? It's a pretty remarkable story.

It will completely overshadow the Texans winning 10 games in a season where Andre Johnson, Arian Foster, and Matt Schaub have played exactly 4 quarters together.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The thing about it though, and it's all stuff that can't be proven one way or the other, but it sure as hell seems like the team in general is playing more inspired football. With the exception of the Detroit game, they are playing with 100% more confidence and that has to have something to do with them thinking the guy playing QB can help them win.

Quite simply, how many teams change QBs, trade their best receiver, install an offense that most think will never work in the NFL, and win 7 of 8 games? It's a pretty remarkable story.

It will completely overshadow the Texans winning 10 games in a season where Andre Johnson, Arian Foster, and Matt Schaub have played exactly 4 quarters together.

I think they have been the recipient of some terrible play by the teams they are playing against. The Bears gave away that game and so did the Jets a few weeks back. Does that mean he isn't contributing? Of course not. But it's all overkill and I'm as guilty as anyone else because I'm participating in it.

Winning certainly helps the team morale and confidence. Those are definite intangibles Tebow brings and he's a very good runner.

I assume you watched the Texans game today. I caught the last quarter after I turned the Jets game off. That was a hell of a comeback by a rookie QB, on the road no less without his best receiver. No one cares. Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers are having all time seasons for QB's. No one cares.

it's a nice story, but I'll ask you the same question I asked Coach, what should the response to all of this be?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I think they have been the recipient of some terrible play by the teams they are playing against. The Bears gave away that game and so did the Jets a few weeks back. Does that mean he isn't contributing? Of course not. But it's all overkill and I'm as guilty as anyone else because I'm participating in it.

Winning certainly helps the team morale and confidence. Those are definite intangibles Tebow brings and he's a very good runner.

I assume you watched the Texans game today. I caught the last quarter after I turned the Jets game off. That was a hell of a comeback by a rookie QB, on the road no less without his best receiver. No one cares. Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers are having all time seasons for QB's. No one cares.

it's a nice story, but I'll ask you the same question I asked Coach, what should the response to all of this be?

I didn't think Kubiak was going to let TJ Yates finish the game because Delhomme was supposedly warming up shortly before halftime. Luckily he had faith and let him work things out. All in all he had a pretty good game and made some great decisions in crunch time. It's a baptism by fire in the NFL and he's doing OK for now. Their last 3 games are Car, @Indy, and Ten, so they should be no worse than 12-4.

The Tebow stuff will only be ramped up even more now, and I had basically envisioned next week would be their biggest test of this lengthy stretch. We'll see what happens.

[Danzig]

i think they should be allowed to show that it's the 4th quarter the entire game. it's inexplicable that he plays like dogshit the first 3 q's, but pulls it out in the last. but, it's entertaining for sure-a lot of people are getting a kick out of it.
well, except for whoever denver is playing that is...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I didn't think Kubiak was going to let TJ Yates finish the game because Delhomme was supposedly warming up shortly before halftime. Luckily he had faith and let him work things out. All in all he had a pretty good game and made some great decisions in crunch time. It's a baptism by fire in the NFL and he's doing OK for now. Their last 3 games are Car, @Indy, and Ten, so they should be no worse than 12-4.

The Tebow stuff will only be ramped up even more now, and I had basically envisioned next week would be their biggest test of this lengthy stretch. We'll see what happens.

don't they play new england next week? wash took advantage of a porous defense today to score a much higher than average amount of points for them.
now, brady is playing well. went over 200 passes w/out an int before finally throwing a pick today.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I think they have been the recipient of some terrible play by the teams they are playing against. The Bears gave away that game and so did the Jets a few weeks back. Does that mean he isn't contributing? Of course not. But it's all overkill and I'm as guilty as anyone else because I'm participating in it.

Winning certainly helps the team morale and confidence. Those are definite intangibles Tebow brings and he's a very good runner.

I assume you watched the Texans game today. I caught the last quarter after I turned the Jets game off. That was a hell of a comeback by a rookie QB, on the road no less without his best receiver. No one cares. Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers are having all time seasons for QB's. No one cares.

it's a nice story, but I'll ask you the same question I asked Coach, what should the response to all of this be?

I think it's sort of how people react when passing a car crash on the road...they slow down and try to see what's going on. I've generally been on the support Tebow side of internet debates, but the stuff that's gone on in his games can get beyond ludicrous as today it was simply Marion Barber running out of bounds. That's all it was....well the fumble helped too! He was terrible the first 3 quarters but to be fair did have a few drops, one that could have been a TD to Thomas. He's made 11 NFL starts. Football wise I think you have to give him some credit. The hype for next week's game is going to reach unbearable levels I believe with Brady going to Denver.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I think it's sort of how people react when passing a car crash on the road...they slow down and try to see what's going on. I've generally been on the support Tebow side of internet debates, but the stuff that's gone on in his games can get beyond ludicrous as today it was simply Marion Barber running out of bounds. That's all it was....well the fumble helped too! He was terrible the first 3 quarters but to be fair did have a few drops, one that could have been a TD to Thomas. He's made 11 NFL starts. Football wise I think you have to give him some credit. The hype for next week's game is going to reach unbearable levels I believe with Brady going to Denver.

I think people are giving him credit (6-0 is impressive no matter who you played during that span), they just aren't gushing to the embarrassing levels that the media is.

[Alabama Stakes]

they wouldn't be winning without him, so I guess he deserves credit. A leader of men.....

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

So what should the response be? How much credit should he get?

I assume you watched the game...was that a good performance? .

He put on a superb performance in the 4th quarter and overtime.

The first three quarters were mistake filled and defense dominant by both teams.

who cares that he only gets in done in the 4th quarter.. that's when it actually matters. You can't say that about a lot of more talented players in the league. Tebow has the most 4th quarter passing yards than anyone in the league since week 7. That's impressive.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

He put on a superb performance in the 4th quarter and overtime.

The first three quarters were mistake filled and defense dominant by both teams.

who cares that he only gets in done in the 4th quarter.. that's when it actually matters. You can't say that about a lot of more talented players in the league. Tebow has the most 4th quarter passing yards than anyone in the league since week 7. That's impressive.

I'm not being mean, I am curious...did you watch the entire game?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I'm not being mean, I am curious...did you watch the entire game?

every second of it.. I have the NFL package and the eagles game was at one. did you watch the entire game?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

every second of it.. I have the NFL package and the eagles game was at one. did you watch the entire game?

I missed the first quarter because I was watching the end of the Houston game.