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Old 12-07-2011, 06:14 PM
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Anyone feel like commenting on this?

It's not about HOY but 3 year old champion.

What do you guys think?

http://www.ntra.com/blog/index/view/MTMzNw==
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Old 12-07-2011, 06:43 PM
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My feeling is that it's silly to eliminate Caleb's Posse because the majority of his success came around one-turn. I don't recall reading that the champion has to be the champion route horse. If that is a voter's preference, I can respect that opinion but it's not a requirement. I am of the belief that in a country where most of the horses are bred for and most races are at 8f and under, it is harder to stand out at shorter distances than at longer ones.
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Old 12-07-2011, 06:45 PM
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Didn't Xtra Heat win Champion 3yo filly honors despite being a sprinter?
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Old 12-07-2011, 08:14 PM
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She did and there are surely others that have too. I know Lost in the Fog was very close in 2005. These are exceptions though while the general feeling is that sprints don't count.
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Old 12-09-2011, 09:55 AM
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Didn't Xtra Heat win Champion 3yo filly honors despite being a sprinter?
ABSOLUTELY.........................
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Old 12-09-2011, 11:30 AM
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My feeling is that it's silly to eliminate Caleb's Posse because the majority of his success came around one-turn. I don't recall reading that the champion has to be the champion route horse. If that is a voter's preference, I can respect that opinion but it's not a requirement. I am of the belief that in a country where most of the horses are bred for and most races are at 8f and under, it is harder to stand out at shorter distances than at longer ones.
For me, Caleb's Posse is a pretty clear cut choice. I have no clue who you would call the top routing 3 yr old this year...(Animal Kingdom??)
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Old 12-09-2011, 11:41 PM
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for me this process was bastardized when Zenyatta beat out Blame for HOY.
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Old 12-09-2011, 11:48 PM
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with everything said, HOY imo would be Harve De Grace she is the only horse to generate any kind of buzz and she has probably had the most impressive race out of all the contenders. Woodward win showed pretty much she was best older horse, and back it up with the Beldame in which she won as impressive as you can win a race with Royal Delta 2nd.
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Old 12-09-2011, 11:44 PM
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Anyone feel like commenting on this?

It's not about HOY but 3 year old champion.

What do you guys think?

http://www.ntra.com/blog/index/view/MTMzNw==
Shackelford won a TC and kept on chugging on til the end, I think he wins by just hanging around to race in the end. Stay Thirsty won a signifcant race but not a TC and didnt do much after that win. Had Animal Kingdom stuck around and at least one more semi important race, he would get it by virtue of winning the big race and winning another race of consequence but that didnt happen.
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