LSU vs Bama

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

If you keep asking that question, you really don't get the emotional part, you just don't.

Let me ask this, who has better wins?

Thats not a clear cut answer either. All the "good" teams in the Big 12 sucked this year. Texas, OU?? THey have been horrible.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Thats not a clear cut answer either. All the "good" teams in the Big 12 sucked this year. Texas, OU?? THey have been horrible.

OU is 9-3 and they are horrible? They weren't typical OU, but they were far from horrible. They lost to a very good Baylor team and a stinker to Tech. OSU destroyed them. The loss of Broyles really hurt them the last three games. Beating Texas in Austin handily is not easy even when they are down. For being horrible, they were ranked all year long until losing the last few.

Kansas St. is also very good. Undoubtedly they should be in the Sugar Bowl instead of Virginia Tech...that is a joke. The ACC is a joke when it comes to football these days, and I'm a Maryland fan.

You are easy to figure out though. Rather than try to figure out good wins by Alabama, you deflect. They had 1.5 decent wins...Arkansas and 1/2 for Penn St.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

OU is 9-3 and they are horrible? They weren't typical OU, but they were far from horrible. They lost to a very good Baylor team and a stinker to Tech. OSU destroyed them. The loss of Broyles really hurt them the last three games. Beating Texas in Austin handily is not easy even when they are down. For being horrible, they were ranked all year long until losing the last few.

Kansas St. is also very good. Undoubtedly they should be in the Sugar Bowl instead of Virginia Tech...that is a joke. The ACC is a joke when it comes to football these days, and I'm a Maryland fan.

You are easy to figure out though. Rather than try to figure out good wins by Alabama, you deflect. They had 1.5 decent wins...Arkansas and 1/2 for Penn St.

Penn St stinks also.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Penn St stinks also.

I was trying to be reasonable and give them a half, but yes, they stink. Texas and OU would beat them.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I was trying to be reasonable and give them a half, but yes, they stink. Texas and OU would beat them.

I would agree with that also.

[NTamm1215]

This ridiculous system has forced us to try and analyze losses. Is there a comparison between Oklahoma State's lone loss and Alabama's? Not really, Alabama's 3 pt loss to LSU stacks up much better than OSU's loss to Iowa State.

However, there were extenuating circumstances in place for OSU and their body of work in 2011 altogether was damn good. Alabama had an excellent season and struggled with no one on their schedule when victorious.

There have been many years where the results and the subsequent BCS decision made it abundantly clear that a new system is needed. This year is another example as both OSU and Alabama deserve a shot to play for a championship.

-Master of the obvious

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

This ridiculous system has forced us to try and analyze losses. Is there a comparison between Oklahoma State's lone loss and Alabama's? Not really, Alabama's 3 pt loss to LSU stacks up much better than OSU's loss to Iowa State.

However, there were extenuating circumstances in place for OSU and their body of work in 2011 altogether was damn good. Alabama had an excellent season and struggled with no one on their schedule when victorious.

There have been many years where the results and the subsequent BCS decision made it abundantly clear that a new system is needed. This year is another example as both OSU and Alabama deserve a shot to play for a championship.

-Master of the obvious

Then what about a team like Wisconsin who lost twice on hail mary type plays/finishes. Dont they have a beef also, they want on to avenge one of there losses and win the Big Ten title.

Alabama is the villain this year. Good. Explain how one conference can win 5 BCS championships in a row. Then ponder how Alabama can lose the majority of their offense from last year and still be so damn good.

You should be thankful Oklahoma State isn't playing LSU. NO SHOT. It would never happen. Just enjoy your game against so and so and stfu and watch the two best teams in CFB play in Nawlins.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

You should be thankful Oklahoma State isn't playing LSU. NO SHOT. It would never happen. Just enjoy your game against so and so and stfu and watch the two best teams in CFB play in Nawlins.

Already saw it, what I could stay awake through anyway.

The cowpokes have a 40 year old quarterback that folded against a scrub school. They deserve no shot at a BCS championship.

Boring games can happen when you're dealing with two outstanding defenses. And lets be honest the Big 12 is lacking this year in a strong, CONSISTENT defensive team.

You can throw all the stats in existence but the fact remains OK State s.hit the bed against a peon. Good defenses don't lose to bottom dwellers with no history of success.

[Danzig]

i didn't find the lsu/bama game boring at all. guess that's just me. but then, some people enjoy both offenses scoring back and forth, with 48/47 final scores an exciting game to them. not me. that game was a brutal battle from start to finish. might not have caused a lot of cheering throughout the game, but it was riveting.


as an aside regarding boise st..with them moving into the big east, with an auto bcs bid for the conference winner, will they still be complaining about the system when they go to the fiesta bowl??? doubt it.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Alabama is the villain this year. Good. Explain how one conference can win 5 BCS championships in a row. Then ponder how Alabama can lose the majority of their offense from last year and still be so damn good.

You should be thankful Oklahoma State isn't playing LSU. NO SHOT. It would never happen. Just enjoy your game against so and so and stfu and watch the two best teams in CFB play in Nawlins.

Kinda what I have been saying about OK St for 3 months now.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Kinda what I have been saying about OK St for 3 months now.

Yes, because we all know the favorite wins every game in sports. Guess what, sometimes the best team doesn't even win...shocking I know.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Alabama is the villain this year. Good. Explain how one conference can win 5 BCS championships in a row. Then ponder how Alabama can lose the majority of their offense from last year and still be so damn good.

You should be thankful Oklahoma State isn't playing LSU. NO SHOT. It would never happen. Just enjoy your game against so and so and stfu and watch the two best teams in CFB play in Nawlins.

I dont think anyone is making Alabama out to be the villain. It is how we got to Alabama is what people are wondering about. I agree that the 2 best teams surely could be the 2 teams playing in the championship which in theory is how it is supposed to be but in every other sport we get there on the the field not in mysterious polls. The biggest joke concerning the BCS this year isn't even the final game, it is having Va Tech in the Sugar bowl

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont think anyone is making Alabama out to be the villain. It is how we got to Alabama is what people are wondering about. I agree that the 2 best teams surely could be the 2 teams playing in the championship which in theory is how it is supposed to be but in every other sport we get there on the the field not in mysterious polls. The biggest joke concerning the BCS this year isn't even the final game, it is having Va Tech in the Sugar bowl

Agreed. My only real problem is over and over we hear that the great thing about the BCS is that it makes every game matter. They say it is almost like March Madness all year in football. In this case, we get a rematch where the team that lost AT HOME had their shot.

Why shouldn't someone else get one now? I'm not even arguing that they aren't the second best team, or even the best. Everyone can trot out statistics and opinions, but none of it matters. You only get real results on the field.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Agreed. My only real problem is over and over we hear that the great thing about the BCS is that it makes every game matter. They say it is almost like March Madness all year in football. In this case, we get a rematch where the team that lost AT HOME had their shot.

Why shouldn't someone else get one now? I'm not even arguing that they aren't the second best team, or even the best. Everyone can trot out statistics and opinions, but none of it matters. You only get real results on the field.

I really dont understand the theory that the BCS makes every game count. Like before the BCS the big schools still felt free to schedule non conference teams like Alabama did this year (Ga Southern, North Texas, Kent State) and you still needed to be undefeated or have an early season loss to have a chance to be number 1(unless you are an SEC team). The problem I have is that not only arent the games between the top team decided on the field but the "scientific" methods that the BCS uses are a joke. If you had a 4 or 8 or 16 team playoff it is as though you wouldn't have 4-8 teams getting in. It isnt like a loss wont hurt you either in getting in or in seeding. In theory the BCS makes only regular season games between the top 4 or 5 teams important anyway.

It is all propoganda so that the commissioners of the SEC, Big 10, ACC and Pac 12 can control the power and money in college football.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

OU is 9-3 and they are horrible? They weren't typical OU, but they were far from horrible. They lost to a very good Baylor team and a stinker to Tech. OSU destroyed them. The loss of Broyles really hurt them the last three games. Beating Texas in Austin handily is not easy even when they are down. For being horrible, they were ranked all year long until losing the last few.

Kansas St. is also very good. Undoubtedly they should be in the Sugar Bowl instead of Virginia Tech...that is a joke. The ACC is a joke when it comes to football these days, and I'm a Maryland fan.

You are easy to figure out though. Rather than try to figure out good wins by Alabama, you deflect. They had 1.5 decent wins...Arkansas and 1/2 for Penn St.

and then there's the fact that arkansas' only good win was vs south carolina.