Extending the Payroll Tax Cut

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This has always been. There is no newly developed rich America.

No. But there is a newly missing former middle class, isn't there?

There is no bigger propaganda than the idea that wealthy people are oppressing the masses.

That's right. Just move along. Congress and your government is a wholly owned plutocracy of the wealthy, don't you little people worry about it

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

No. But there is a newly missing former middle class, isn't there?



That's right. Just move along. Congress and your government is a wholly owned plutocracy of the wealthy, don't you little people worry about it

If there is no middle class than why all the hand wringing about them?

Yeah a bunch of people holed up in parks across the country are going to root out corruption and greed. Sure they are...

Money talks and bullshit walks...not sure why anyone thinks this will ever change in, well just about everything?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If there is no middle class than why all the hand wringing about them?

Yeah a bunch of people holed up in parks across the country are going to root out corruption and greed. Sure they are...

Money talks and bullshit walks...not sure why anyone thinks this will ever change in, well just about everything?

That's right, nothing at all to worry about here.

Oh - and those people are no longer in the parks, they are in places like ... the halls of Congress today. Getting 400,000 people to withdraw money from big banks with bad practices in favor of credit unions last month. Getting the conversation changed from the false Republican "fix the deficit" nonsense, to the reality of income inequality and the nasty influence, over the past 70 years, of money in our politics.

So what did you think of the President's speech today?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

That's right, nothing at all to worry about here.

Oh - and those people are no longer in the parks, they are in places like ... the halls of Congress today. Getting 400,000 people to withdraw money from big banks with bad practices in favor of credit unions last month. Getting the conversation changed from the false Republican "fix the deficit" nonsense, to the reality of income inequality and the nasty influence, over the past 70 years, of money in our politics.

So what did you think of the President's speech today?

Funny how you claim that the movement is non partisan yet you keep bring up Republican "nonsense" that it is supposedly addressing.

So you think money in politics started 70 years ago? lol

[Riot]

(gotta remember to sign in under my own name)

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Funny how you claim that the movement is non partisan yet you keep bring up Republican "nonsense" that it is supposedly addressing.

So you think money in politics started 70 years ago? lol

The Republicans are pretty much wholly-owned corporate whores. There are plenty of Dems there, too.

The last 30 years has seen a huge increase in the dissembling of regulations and laws keeping money out of politics. Citizens United was the final straw.

And no, I didn't say I think money in politics started 70 years ago. Re-read it. You do like to bring up silly straw men, misstate what people have said, and change the conversation, don't you?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

(gotta remember to sign in under my own name)



The Republicans are pretty much wholly-owned corporate whores. There are plenty of Dems there, too.

The last 30 years has seen a huge increase in the dissembling of regulations and laws keeping money out of politics. Citizens United was the final straw.

And no, I didn't say I think money in politics started 70 years ago. Re-read it. You do like to bring up silly straw men, misstate what people have said, and change the conversation, don't you?

You specifically used 70 years. So are you implying that the money in politics 71+ years ago wasnt influential?

I didnt change anything, just asked a completely valid question. When someone uses a starting point for "nasty influence"(like 70 years) are we to assume that this was the starting point? Was money in politics not as influential beyond 70 years ago?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You specifically used 70 years. So are you implying that the money in politics 71+ years ago wasnt influential?

LOL. Not at all. 70 years simply refers to modern post-depression financial politics in this country.

I didnt change anything, just asked a completely valid question. When someone uses a starting point for "nasty influence"(like 70 years) are we to assume that this was the starting point? Was money in politics not as influential beyond 70 years ago?

Good lord. I referred to no "starting point". Here's what I said - that you think "70 years" is the most important thing to take out of what I said - let alone falsely changing it to different meanings - is simply amazing

Riot said:
"Oh - and those people are no longer in the parks, they are in places like ... the halls of Congress today. Getting 400,000 people to withdraw money from big banks with bad practices in favor of credit unions last month. Getting the conversation changed from the false Republican "fix the deficit" nonsense, to the reality of income inequality and the nasty influence, over the past 70 years, of money in our politics."