LSU vs Bama

cmorioles · #1 12-06-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

so other schools manage to schedule some tough opponents, but boise can't? i didn't know that.

Seems you don't understand how the big schools think.

RockHardTen1985 · #2 12-06-2011, 11:22 AM

Who cares about Boise St? They are garbage and they play garbage. If there was a playoff I would rather see teams like Va Tech and Wisconsin in over Boise St.

horseofcourse · #3 12-06-2011, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Who cares about Boise St? They are garbage and they play garbage. If there was a playoff I would rather see teams like Va Tech and Wisconsin in over Boise St.

who exactly isn't garbage?? they are all garbage. LSU included. let's see, VA TEch who Boise ST beat last year, and Wisconsin who TCU beat last year. Great exacta!!

dagolfer33 · #4 12-06-2011, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

who exactly isn't garbage?? they are all garbage. LSU included. let's see, VA TEch who Boise ST beat last year, and Wisconsin who TCU beat last year. Great exacta!!

Garbage, I tell you, GARBAGE!!!!!!

RockHardTen1985 · #5 12-06-2011, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

who exactly isn't garbage?? they are all garbage. LSU included. let's see, VA TEch who Boise ST beat last year, and Wisconsin who TCU beat last year. Great exacta!!

A nice, fair 8 team playoff would be.... Major conference winners plus 2 at large teams. You want to make it ,10,12 then you have a board/commitee like NCAA. A team like Baylor could drop 50 on any team on any given day. USC is playing great, maybe these type of teams could be voted in.

LSU
Bama
Stanford
Wisconsin
OK ST
Oregon
Va Tech
Clemson

Cannon Shell · #6 12-06-2011, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

A nice, fair 8 team playoff would be.... Major conference winners plus 2 at large teams. You want to make it ,10,12 then you have a board/commitee like NCAA. A team like Baylor could drop 50 on any team on any given day. USC is playing great, maybe these type of teams could be voted in.

LSU
Bama
Stanford
Wisconsin
OK ST
Oregon
Va Tech
Clemson

Va Tech? They just lost 38-10 and are ranked 17th
USC is on probation

RockHardTen1985 · #7 12-06-2011, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Va Tech? They just lost 38-10 and are ranked 17th
USC is on probation

Its an example. Va Tech was highly ranked all year. Plus they are my team. I know what USC is on, but they also beat Oregon.

Cannon Shell · #8 12-06-2011, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Its an example. Va Tech was highly ranked all year. Plus they are my team. I know what USC is on, but they also beat Oregon.

Va Tech stinks. What dfference does it make if they were undefeated, they are ineligible

GPK · #9 12-06-2011, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Its an example. Va Tech was highly ranked all year. Plus they are my team. I know what USC is on, but they also beat Oregon.

Just when I was starting to have high hopes for you. I hear enough foolish talk from everyone around here about how great they are.

BigBlue · #10 12-06-2011, 10:01 PM

Seems like this is one thing we could all rally around President Obama on. In 2008, he said

"I think any sensible person would say that if you've got a bunch of teams who play throughout the season, and many of them have one loss or two losses, there's no clear decisive winner that we should be creating a playoff system. Eight teams. That would be three rounds, to determine a national champion. It would add three extra weeks to the season. You could trim back on the regular season. I don't know any serious fan of college football who has disagreed with me on this. So, I'm gonna throw my weight around a little bit. I think it's the right thing to do."

dagolfer33 · #11 12-06-2011, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBlue

Seems like this is one thing we could all rally around President Obama on. In 2008, he said

"I think any sensible person would say that if you've got a bunch of teams who play throughout the season, and many of them have one loss or two losses, there's no clear decisive winner that we should be creating a playoff system. Eight teams. That would be three rounds, to determine a national champion. It would add three extra weeks to the season. You could trim back on the regular season. I don't know any serious fan of college football who has disagreed with me on this. So, I'm gonna throw my weight around a little bit. I think it's the right thing to do."

Last time I checked, Obama was a politician. They never do what they say they are going to do.

Cannon Shell · #12 12-06-2011, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Who cares about Boise St? They are garbage and they play garbage. If there was a playoff I would rather see teams like Va Tech and Wisconsin in over Boise St.

Did you catch the Ok State score?

slotdirt · #13 12-06-2011, 09:09 PM

I won't be watching a second of the national "championship" game, but I do hope it ends in an Alabama victory. Not because I prefer Alabama - I most certainly do not - but because that's the only way we're going to get a split national championship and folks re-examining the bowl system. We're looking at you, B1G and Pac whatever you are now.

Danzig · #14 12-06-2011, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

I won't be watching a second of the national "championship" game, but I do hope it ends in an Alabama victory. Not because I prefer Alabama - I most certainly do not - but because that's the only way we're going to get a split national championship and folks re-examining the bowl system. We're looking at you, B1G and Pac whatever you are now.

no one is going to re-examine anything because there is too much money involved in the current system. unless that changes, nothing else will.

Cannon Shell · #15 12-06-2011, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

no one is going to re-examine anything because there is too much money involved in the current system. unless that changes, nothing else will.

Actually they are leaving a ton of money on the table. A playoff would be far more lucratitive than the BCS. The thing is that the people who make the decisions are corrupt and laughingly so. Can you imagine what the ratings would be for games that actually meant something as opposed to last weekend when the conference championships were fairly meaningless? Just look at some of these BCS bowls this year?
Outside of the Rose and Fiesta bowls which are interesting matchups the others are fairly embarrassing. #13 Michigan versus #11 Va Tech? #23 WV versus #15 Clemson?
40% of BCS bowls dont even have a top 10 team.

think about this 1st round-Hell you could reward the higher seeds by making these home games
LSU vs Va Tech
Alabama vs TCU
Ok State vs Baylor
Stanford vs Clemson
Oregon vs Michigan
Arkansas vs Michigan State
Boise st vs Kansas state
Wisconsin vs South Carolina

Assume that the higher seeds win all the games
2nd round
LSU vs Wisconsin (Outback)
Alabama vs Boise State (Orange)
Ok State vs Arkansas (Cotton)
Stanford vs Oregon (Rose)

LSU vs Stanford (Fiesta)
Alabama vs ok State (Sugar)

LSU vs Alabama

You dont think that series of games to get to LSU/Alabama wouldnt be 50 times more lucratitive? Oh yeah but they would have to share the money, unlike the way the system is set up now...

Calzone Lord · #16 12-06-2011, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

think about this 1st round-Hell you could reward the higher seeds by making these home games
LSU vs Va Tech
Alabama vs TCU
Ok State vs Baylor
Stanford vs Clemson
Oregon vs Michigan
Arkansas vs Michigan State
Boise st vs Kansas state
Wisconsin vs South Carolina

16 for football will make the regular season games and confrence championship games less important.

Why not just a simple 8-team tourney... 6 automatic spots going to the Conference champions of the six major confrences. One automatic spot going to the highest rated non BCS confrence champion. And one at-large selection going to the highest rated team who doesn't qualify.

The 1st round would look like so:

8-seed West Virgina at 1-seed LSU
7-seed Clemson at 2-seed Alabama
6-seed Wisconson at 3-seed Oklahoma State
5-seed Boise State at 4-seed Oregon

The remaining games in the playoff tourney would be played at alternating locations like the Rose Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Orange Bowl, Cotton Bowl, etc.

This would achieve making the regular season more important, making the conference title games more important, and having a meaningful playoff that is way better than the current Bowl system.

Danzig · #17 12-07-2011, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Actually they are leaving a ton of money on the table. A playoff would be far more lucratitive than the BCS. The thing is that the people who make the decisions are corrupt and laughingly so. Can you imagine what the ratings would be for games that actually meant something as opposed to last weekend when the conference championships were fairly meaningless? Just look at some of these BCS bowls this year?
Outside of the Rose and Fiesta bowls which are interesting matchups the others are fairly embarrassing. #13 Michigan versus #11 Va Tech? #23 WV versus #15 Clemson?
40% of BCS bowls dont even have a top 10 team.

think about this 1st round-Hell you could reward the higher seeds by making these home games
LSU vs Va Tech
Alabama vs TCU
Ok State vs Baylor
Stanford vs Clemson
Oregon vs Michigan
Arkansas vs Michigan State
Boise st vs Kansas state
Wisconsin vs South Carolina

Assume that the higher seeds win all the games
2nd round
LSU vs Wisconsin (Outback)
Alabama vs Boise State (Orange)
Ok State vs Arkansas (Cotton)
Stanford vs Oregon (Rose)

LSU vs Stanford (Fiesta)
Alabama vs ok State (Sugar)

LSU vs Alabama

You dont think that series of games to get to LSU/Alabama wouldnt be 50 times more lucratitive? Oh yeah but they would have to share the money, unlike the way the system is set up now...

as i've said in the past, if the money was there, they wouldn't hesitate to look at a change or make a change. what compelling reason is there to change? because some people want it? others don't, or don't care.

i'm in the don't care how it's settled camp. it's just football. i watch it for entertainment. i don't lose sleep over how the 'champ' is crowned. it's not something i have any control over, so i don't worry about it. if they change the system, ok. if they don't, ok.