Penn State

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by satan's twin

It is absolutely incredible to read the stupid sh*t that gets posted here thread after thread, be it from the resident warlock who thinks it's premature to dismiss that criminally aiding and abetting head coach without "due process" or the PSU parent who suggests another poster is making "douchebag comments" for labeling this diaper-clad turd a criminal or others who see the student pep rallies in front of the criminal coach's home in a show of support as nothing other than "silly".

"SILLY"? Are you out of your f*cking mind? Those privileged dolts parading in front of Paterno's home don't have the balls or the brains to confront that reptile the way he should have been confronted. Holding a pep rally for 'Good Old Joe"? How about going there with torches and a noose.

First, the 28 year old twit who sees this monster raping a child in the shower runs away from the locker. What a f*cking hero. He should have bludgeoned the prick in the shower. No, he is so distraught, he calls his dad for advice, who's first concern is to call the head coach ?????????? Of course. It wouldn't dawn on you to call the police either while this was happening or THE NEXT DAY. And what, they don't have a 911 service in Pennsylvania? No problem, though. The coach will know what to do. He will call the police............or maybe not. Let's call our bosses instead. Somehow these PhD's, these administrators of higher learning, these arbiters of justice, interpret rape as "horseplay". They really had no other choice. If they would have done the right thing, they would have jeopardized the cash cow and all of its glorious athletic achievements. This gutless triumverate couldn't possibly make a more dishonorable decision in a hundred years..............unless they bury this incident and look the other way and make the rapist a "professor emeritus" and give him the keys and unfettered access to his house of horrors dungeon for the next ten years.
And one of the "tough" questions at today's news conference for the new zookeeper..........."Will Coach McCreary be on the sidelines or in the pressbox on Saturday?"..........................I've got a suggestion. How about in a jail cell with his pants around his ankles while he's tethered to the bed with a rather excited 350 lb. bull lifer behind him looking like the State of Pennsylvania just delivered his Christmas present a little early.

That piece of sh*t Paterno knew exactly who that monster on his staff was. He made him the assistant head coach. Sandusky was the heir apparent to the program. Paterno ran a program where the ranks were closed. He knew every detail about his program back in his pre-senility days. That freak on his staff didn't start diddling kids in the shower all of a sudden. Sandusky started his pedophile recruitment foundation in 1977. In 1998, the first formal complaint was filed with the police even though rumors about this bastard were raised four years earlier. Suddenly, a year later, Ol Joe had a change of heart and Sandusky was told he wouldn't be the next head coach. Probably because even an arrogant old f*ck like Paterno knows that "Head Coach/ Pedophile" doesn't look all that appealing on a business card, either to the Friends of the Program or to blue-chip recruits. Instead of handing him over on a platter to the authorities, he orchestrated his sideway advancement to professor emeritus with all the privileges and benefits. Unfortunately, this creep thought benefits included all the innocent childred he could possibly devour.

Why didn't JoPa throw this animal under the bus and drive it over him? I'm guessing in time we are going to find out that Ol' Joe was as dirty as every other football coach in America and creepy Uncle Jerry Sandusky knew every ugly detail and where every ugly skeleton was buried. Why else would a human being with a pulse allow a diseased predator to exit in his midst unless the predator could blackmail him for his indiscretions?

And all this for a football program?

So the proper response for Penn State students is a lynching of an 84 year old man? I'm pretty sure that's just as illegal as raping children in the state of Pennsyvania. The rest of your post is pretty good though and may have merit.

[satan's twin]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

So the proper response for Penn State students is a lynching of an 84 year old man? I'm pretty sure that's just as illegal as raping children in the state of Pennsyvania. The rest of your post is pretty good though and may have merit.

OMG.......Can't........stop........banging........ head.......against.......computer.

Please, for your mental health, don't try to absorb too many deep thoughts in one sitting. You're already laboring under the anchor of that Penn State education of yours. No, the proper response for Penn State students wouldn't be holding a lynching for that 84 year old turd. His bony neck would probably slip out of the noose, anyway.

I don't know what you and your brethren have been breathing for so long in Happy Valley, PA that makes the collective population there miss what the rest of the nation sees so clearly. It is so obvious this place has been ground zero for heinous assaults on children for decades done with the tacit consent of the top administrators of the university and the head football coach. That fact is contained in the grand jury report which will be, no doubt, the first of many ugly reports to come out about these crimes. The people responsible for this consent will face their day in court eventually. Obviously, Paterno hired a crackerjack defense attorney to defend more than his football legacy. When McCreary begins to save his bacon, he will make it quite clear to investigators that he told Paterno exactly what he saw Sandusky doing in the shower to that kid. And at that point Paterno will have no cover for his failure to alert the law enforcement authorities when that assault happened. It will more readily apparent what a scumbag he is when it is confirmed that he chose to evade the tarnish to his hallowed football program rather than do the right thing and erase that monster.

But aside from the actions of Sandusky, Paterno, McCreary, et al., I am more astounded by the rather unified reaction, GENERALLY SPEAKING, of the Penn State community, as a whole. First of all, for those brain-dead students and fans of PSU, this matter doesnt have a damn thing to do with football. This is about hideous crimes committed against children. END OF STORY! Each and every participant in these crimes should pay the price for their crimes. It doesn't make a damn bit of difference if Paterno was the winningest coach in NCAA history and a person canonized throughout Pennsylvania. He kept these crimes hidden. He is criminally responsible!

Second, the majority of students and supporters interviewed at Penn State over the past several days have responded with lock-step uniformity "that JoePa was given a raw deal." Again, are you out of your f*cking minds? If not for the actions of a few logical-thinking administrators who encouraged the remembrance of the victims of these crimes, this past weekend would have been an even bigger pity party for Paterno than it already was. Who gives a sh*t that he was fired? He deserved it. He was lucky he wasn't escorted in cuffs from his home.

Third, what Pennsylvania legal genius there thought it was OK to allow that freak Sandusky to be out on bail. Why hasn't it been revoked? There are more reports that the numbers of victims is going up. Shouldn't someone there even consider the possibility that this could happen again before his legal proceedings begin?

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by JJP

Maybe you were too stupid at 18 or 19 to realize that enabling pedophiles is sick but not all of us were.

I'm sorry, how many of those 18 and 19 year old kids "rioting" were enabling pedophiles?? Maybe I was too stupid. I assure you that you did not know me at 18 or 19 nor do you know me now. You have a rightly high opinion of yourself which is good. It was really, really bad what happened. I agree with everyone on that. I simply understand people defending Paterno. the facts are he was not pure and complete evil for all 61 years at the University I attended and was well liked for the most part.

[JJP]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I'm sorry, how many of those 18 and 19 year old kids "rioting" were enabling pedophiles?? Maybe I was too stupid. I assure you that you did not know me at 18 or 19 nor do you know me now. You have a rightly high opinion of yourself which is good. It was really, really bad what happened. I agree with everyone on that. I simply understand people defending Paterno. the facts are he was not pure and complete evil for all 61 years at the University I attended and was well liked for the most part.

There is NO defending him. Anyone who is defending him is sick.

As for Clyde, to answer your question, I'm obviously not a pathetic prick like yourself.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by JJP

There is NO defending him. Anyone who is defending him is sick.

As for Clyde, to answer your question, I'm obviously not a pathetic prick like yourself.

Uhm...it ain't so obvious fucl<face.

[clyde]

Who is this recycled basil root anyway??

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I'm sorry, how many of those 18 and 19 year old kids "rioting" were enabling pedophiles?? Maybe I was too stupid. I assure you that you did not know me at 18 or 19 nor do you know me now. You have a rightly high opinion of yourself which is good. It was really, really bad what happened. I agree with everyone on that. I simply understand people defending Paterno. the facts are he was not pure and complete evil for all 61 years at the University I attended and was well liked for the most part.

You have no bearing on the disgraceful behavior of the students last night. They are college age kids who rioted over a football coach deservedly being fired. Acting like this is ok because people do stupid things when they are in college is stupid. The facts are very simple. Paterno is a egotistical scumbag who put his "legacy" in front of protecting young children from being molested. The university was being run by criminals. A signifigant section of the student body are ignorant morons who deserve the scorn that is being thrust on them. The football program is destroyed and should be disbanded. Your school just moved to the head of the "most hated" team moving ahead of the U and Duke. The entire University will be tainted for a long time.

Or you can pretend that everything is cool in State College.

[clyde]

Oh my God...his horsey must have lost last night.

[JJP]

Originally Posted by clyde

Oh my God...his horsey must have lost last night.

You are a pathetic excuse for a human being. A waste of space, blood and skin. A living breathing tumor. The world will be better when you are six feet under.

[jms62]

This is really clear to me now

2000 Penn State 5-6
2001 Penn State 5-7

It is public knowledge that they wanted him to retire at this point
and there was no way they could fire Joe PA

March 1, 2002 – A Penn State graduate assistant enters the locker room at the Lasch Football Building. In the showers, he sees a naked boy, known as Victim 2, whose age he estimates to be 10 years old, being subjected to anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky. The graduate assistant tells his father immediately.

March 2, 2002 – In the morning, the graduate assistant calls Coach Joe Paterno and goes to Paterno's home, where he reports what he has seen.

March 3, 2002 – Paterno calls Tim Curley, Penn State Athletic Director to his home the next day and reports a version of what the grad assistant had said.

If he follows up and goes to the cops it gives the administration fuel to press him to retire or fire him.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cardus

What they did was "silly"?

That is how you describe chanting and marching -- and, yes, according to at least one media type -- destroying property to defend a coach who wouldn't defend children being raped? He had the power to do something.

It's not like Paterno violated NCAA rules and was being railroaded out of town.

HE DID NOTHING TO STOP SANDUSKY.

"Silly" can describe a lot of college-age antics, but wanting Paterno to continue coaching after what happened this week is depraved.

Lots of things are depraved. We are trained to worship elites. I stated flat out paterno should be fired immediately as well as Spanier. Then man was a legend and a huge part of the university for 61 years. Gee, some disagreed with my opinion, many of them 19 year olds. No, you should not riot and a few did damage to the city and property. That is bad. The overwhelming majority did not.

We once had a presidential administration knowingly lie to get us into a war that has killed multiple thousands of human beings...including multiple thousands of Americans. They set up a world wide torture ring, knowlingly and proudly. There isn't a bit of outrage or anything. They walk around smiling and on TV most of the time. The facts are the majority of people in this country accept the torture of other human beings as a good thing, and we all think it's fine. Our current administration summarily executes US Citizens and no one blinks an eye. The last two administrations put people in gulags for "indefinite detention" forever if they so desire. No one blinks an eye. What went on at Penn State was depraved without question and is despicable up and down the chain. It does not make the place I attended college a cess pool. Just like I don't think the United States is a cess pool despite the last two administrations doing depraved things. So yeah, let's express outrage at several hundred 18 and 19 year old Penn State students protesting a firing of a legend. That's what's really important. AGain, I think their opinion is flat wrong but I certainly understand it.

So some 19 year old thinking Paterno shouldn't be fired is far down on my list of depraved things going on in this world. People have a right to express dismay at the Paterno firing although they shouldn't damage property doing it. I don't agree with their opinion but they certainly have a right to have it...thinking Paterno should not have been fired.

[Calzone Lord]

1982 article: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...85/1/index.htm

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cardus

We are trained to worship elites? Is this taught at Penn State? I wasn't taught this. It sounds like Nazism.

Your post reads like an "relativist" defense, but we are talking about this instance.

Announcing that anyone has a "right" to express dismay is not the point; whether it is a moral defense is the point.

What the protesting students are doing, whether they know it or not -- and shame on them if they do not understand this notion -- is defending a man who protected a pedophile. There is no way around that.

It is unfathomable to me that any human being would put their idolatry before the lives of innocent children. And those who do are wrong.

We are not talking about a coach who violated NCAA rules, or blew a .11, or had a drug problem. I could see a mass protest if that were the case.

Is pedophilia in a "gray area"?

Those who treat it as such -- and I expect 18-21 year-olds to get this -- are immoral.

Good post. I do not worhsip elites...an extremely large percentage of Americans do. A lot of people actually respected and still do, Ronald Reagan, another senile criminal bastard of similar strain as Joe Paterno. I view the misguided students worshipping Paterno as those who actually think Reagan was someone to be admired. He isn't, nor is paterno at this point. I was hopeful Paterno was just a doddering old fool hanging on for meaningless records. I was sadly wrong. I think the students currently at Penn State doing their stuff on Wednesday night holding joe vigils were simply misguided which I understand. I feel the same about people who still think Ronald REagan was a good man. He wasn't. Many people will disagree with me on that which is fine, but that is why I defended the misguided students at Penn State. Simply misguided at this time.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Another "relativist" defense: Joe Paterno is bad, but so is Ronald Reagan.

I understand that you are contextualizing this -- while revealing your political leanings quite clearly -- but is it necessary?

The above nitwiticizm comes to you from the Cowardly Lion.


CardMe...go brownie up one of the idols over at NA...you don't work here.

[clyde]

Come and shoot me.









Oh...and explain why I am a loser.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Cardus

I use a word for people like you: faux.

Fuc_ing loser.

Not exactly a deep thinker, are ya.




Did you know they talk behind your back at NA?

There's a secret members room there and they think you are yuk 'em up.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Cardus

CardMe?

Lame.

Fuc_ing loser.

I agree...it is a lame name.

[clyde]

Come on CardUs....we don't have all night here.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Cardus

What they did was "silly"?

That is how you describe chanting and marching -- and, yes, according to at least one media type -- destroying property to defend a coach who wouldn't defend children being raped? He had the power to do something.

It's not like Paterno violated NCAA rules and was being railroaded out of town.

HE DID NOTHING TO STOP SANDUSKY.

"Silly" can describe a lot of college-age antics, but wanting Paterno to continue coaching after what happened this week is depraved.

I know who the fucl< you be.



I'd love to see your rap sheet.

What would it say?


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Public nincompoopence.


Driving without a brain


Felonious horsey picking


Excessive buffoonery


Eddie Haskeling on public message boards


Walking like an Egyption


Concealed goat


Last kid piling on


Passed cretin test


Assault with intent to fail


Malfeasant exposure








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