again cancelled

Well horse safety comes first. There will always be another day to wager on THe Big A. However, I did like this card.

[blackthroatedwind]

Yes. The double is 4-ALL.

[blackthroatedwind]

They should have continued racing. Not getting into it but the jockeys basically think it is all about them and cancelled on a day that was no worse than many. Too bad for all the horseplayers that prepared for the day, too bad for those in attendance, too bad for the trainers and their help that readied their horses for today's races, too bad for the owners that paid the bills and were trying to help pay their costs and too bad for anyone else because the jockeys sit on an island. But we should help pay their medical coverage?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

They should have continued racing. Not getting into it but the jockeys basically think it is all about them and cancelled on a day that was no worse than many. Too bad for all the horseplayers that prepared for the day, too bad for those in attendance, too bad for the trainers and their help that readied their horses for today's races, too bad for the owners that paid the bills and were trying to help pay their costs and too bad for anyone else because the jockeys sit on an island. But we should help pay their medical coverage?

Do you ride? If not, you have no clue as to what it entails to ride in gusty, nasty weather...

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Do you ride? If not, you have no clue as to what it entails to ride in gusty, nasty weather...

I know a lot more about this situation than you do. Just as I know a lot more about why you dog my posts than you think I do.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I know a lot more about this situation than you do. Just as I know a lot more about why you dog my posts than you think I do.

Actually, I don't dog your posts. Please pull up where I have dogged your posts. Some of them are quite informative...

THIS particular one was inaccurate in my opinion and since it seems that opinions run rampant on this message board, I'm entitled to mine as well. As for what you're referring to, I know some things about YOU as well, but unlike you, I didn't feel the need to bring that up.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Actually, I don't dog your posts. Please pull up where I have dogged your posts. Some of them are quite informative...

THIS particular one was inaccurate in my opinion and since it seems that opinions run rampant on this message board, I'm entitled to mine as well. As for what you're referring to, I know some things about YOU as well, but unlike you, I didn't feel the need to bring that up.

Knowing what another poster sends you in a PM hardly qualifies as knowing anything about me. What it really does is tell you about the person who sent it. Considering the only personal friend I have on this site is Steve, and I am confident he didn't discuss me with you, anything you heard was heresay and likely the jealous rantings of a wannabe. I'm used to it.

As far as this particular situation, if you actually knew anything accurate about me, you could assume I do have some actual knowledge of what went down and that is what enabled me to have the strong opinion I posted.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

They should have continued racing. Not getting into it but the jockeys basically think it is all about them and cancelled on a day that was no worse than many. Too bad for all the horseplayers that prepared for the day, too bad for those in attendance, too bad for the trainers and their help that readied their horses for today's races, too bad for the owners that paid the bills and were trying to help pay their costs and too bad for anyone else because the jockeys sit on an island. But we should help pay their medical coverage?

I think the jocks have figured out that New York breds are the 1st to find the ground(regardless of how.)They don't want any part of getting on them in the wind.

[Byebyemermaid]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

They should have continued racing. Not getting into it but the jockeys basically think it is all about them and cancelled on a day that was no worse than many. Too bad for all the horseplayers that prepared for the day, too bad for those in attendance, too bad for the trainers and their help that readied their horses for today's races, too bad for the owners that paid the bills and were trying to help pay their costs and too bad for anyone else because the jockeys sit on an island. But we should help pay their medical coverage?

I'm assuming you live here in the metropolitan area.I spend quite a bit of time at JFK for business where the crosswinds can almost lift you off you're feet and Aqueduct is a stones throw away.There are no skyscrapers too block that wind.As far as attendance is concerned they can't even get 3500 at Belmont on a summer day,and i'm sure the extra hour of sleep didn't put into peoples mind to go to Aqueduct.I still like the days when there was no winter racing here in NY.I don't touch winter racing because you can't handicap for 15 degree weather with a wind chill of zero,but then again i really don't touch NY racing period because of the nonsense and i'm as NY as anyone you'll ever meet.

I live about 75 miles from both Belmont and Aqueduct(using different routes). My home is is in Northwestern New Jersey, in the MOUNTAINS! Even with the Kittatinny Mountains along the Appalachian Trail buffering us, it is one windy day. My husband had calls all morning cancelling an outdoor dog training session. Trees are down in the woods on our property. Even my cats want to stay inside! The German shepherd dogs cannot get back soon enough. The wind is a fierce one today.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Byebyemermaid

I'm assuming you live here in the metropolitan area.I spend quite a bit of time at JFK for business where the crosswinds can almost lift you off you're feet and Aqueduct is a stones throw away.There are no skyscrapers too block that wind.As far as attendance is concerned they can't even get 3500 at Belmont on a summer day,and i'm sure the extra hour of sleep didn't put into peoples mind to go to Aqueduct.I still like the days when there was no winter racing here in NY.I don't touch winter racing because you can't handicap for 15 degree weather with a wind chill of zero,but then again i really don't touch NY racing period because of the nonsense and i'm as NY as anyone you'll ever meet.

Because the attendance is slight is not a reason to treat the few that do come poorly. In fact, if anything, they deserve special treatment.

No doubt the wind conditions out there are bad, I have probably spent close to 800 afternoons at the Big A, and winter racing is tough. However, the jockeys have signed on to race here during the winter, so it seems that if they feel it is really necessary to cancel they should do it prudently. Otherwise it can become a " boy who cried wolf " scenerio.

My problem is not caring about riders safety, as I do, but really that more and more the riders are showing that, as a group, they have little interest in any concerns other than their own. Racing is in trouble and the jockeys are refusing to try and be part of the solution. In fact, considering the recent actions of the guild, it seems they are more determined to be part of the problem.

I have close friends who ride, and I have the utmost respect for them, and certainly not everybody is acting completely in their own selfish best interests. However, I wish the riders would find a voice that paints them in a better light and finds a way to unite as opposed to their current position.

[Byebyemermaid]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Because the attendance is slight is not a reason to treat the few that do come poorly. In fact, if anything, they deserve special treatment.

No doubt the wind conditions out there are bad, I have probably spent close to 800 afternoons at the Big A, and winter racing is tough. However, the jockeys have signed on to race here during the winter, so it seems that if they feel it is really necessary to cancel they should do it prudently. Otherwise it can become a " boy who cried wolf " scenerio.

My problem is not caring about riders safety, as I do, but really that more and more the riders are showing that, as a group, they have little interest in any concerns other than their own. Racing is in trouble and the jockeys are refusing to try and be part of the solution. In fact, considering the recent actions of the guild, it seems they are more determined to be part of the problem.

I have close friends who ride, and I have the utmost respect for them, and certainly not everybody is acting completely in their own selfish best interests. However, I wish the riders would find a voice that paints them in a better light and finds a way to unite as opposed to their current position.

My feeling is that you should never have to pay for admission or parking, for the simple fact when is the last time you went to the track to watch 9.I've been going to the races since 1973 and i remember that they used to have a mailing list where they would send vouchers for parking,admission or a free program (the old style).The plight of racing here in NY is self inflicted by greed and other circumstance.I used to do business with Aramark who had the concessions at tracks and i would go thru the NYRA office and everybodys relative was on the payroll.It was pathetic.Last year for the breeders cup at Belmont on WFAN which is the sports station here, there were more ads to come out to the Meadowlands for that day than Belmont.They do a poor job of marketing this sport not just here but in general.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Because the attendance is slight is not a reason to treat the few that do come poorly. In fact, if anything, they deserve special treatment.

No doubt the wind conditions out there are bad, I have probably spent close to 800 afternoons at the Big A, and winter racing is tough. However, the jockeys have signed on to race here during the winter, so it seems that if they feel it is really necessary to cancel they should do it prudently. Otherwise it can become a " boy who cried wolf " scenerio.

My problem is not caring about riders safety, as I do, but really that more and more the riders are showing that, as a group, they have little interest in any concerns other than their own. Racing is in trouble and the jockeys are refusing to try and be part of the solution. In fact, considering the recent actions of the guild, it seems they are more determined to be part of the problem.

I have close friends who ride, and I have the utmost respect for them, and certainly not everybody is acting completely in their own selfish best interests. However, I wish the riders would find a voice that paints them in a better light and finds a way to unite as opposed to their current position.

Ok, racing's in trouble and the riders as a group are not part of the solution, you say. I'm curious what, say, three or four key things can the riders do as a group?

And if, as I take your comments, the riders as a group so not speak with one voice, what do you make of the NY traners? Many of their board membersl seem to have no trouble voicing opinions and issuing support regarding the franchise, but they are nowhere near unity. In fact, several of the trainers' board members have ties through client/owners to NYRA board mambers.

I'd be pleasantly surprised if there is anything non-monetary the jocks are in position to do that meaningfully improves the sport from any perspective. Strikes me there's more to be done from the NY trainers end as a group.