NFL Coaching Changes: Who Should, Who Should Go

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

No, Marvin Lewis wasn't good enough to make the Cincinnati Bengals a dominant NFL franchise. He wasn't near good enough. He was good enough to improve by a huge margin a terrible and pathetic franchise. I'm not sure he should get fired.

I repeat 55-137 were the Bengals the 12 years prior to Marvin coming.

56-55-1 in Marvin's first 7 years with the team.

Those are the plain and simple facts. THe 4-11 this year is enough for you to fire him. I'm simply not sure.

Well, it's still early and they have yet to play the Steelers and Ravens, but you know, the camp of the Bengals shouldn't fire Marvin Lewis stood at 1 on this board.

[clyde]

This is so true....



Mr. Rogers of Cleveland should go right after the final gun in Pittsburgh goes off.

He most likely won't,but God I hope so.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by clyde

This is so true....



Mr. Rogers of Cleveland should go right after the final gun in Pittsburgh goes off.

He most likely won't,but God I hope so.

well, I was solidly in the camp of the Browns shouldn't fire Mangini as well. that move's paid off solidly!!

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Well, it's still early and they have yet to play the Steelers and Ravens, but you know, the camp of the Bengals shouldn't fire Marvin Lewis stood at 1 on this board.

3-5 to end the season if they are lucky.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

3-5 to end the season if they are lucky.

Why thank you. I take this sentence as a backhanded compliment which translated means..."Horseofcourse, I'll give you this one. You weren't 100 percent insane for thinking marvin Lewis shouldn't have been fired after the 2010 season...perhaps only 98 percent!"

and no...if they were real lucky, they'd go 8-0 to end the season. If they were just lucky they'd go 5-3 getting 1 of 4 against bal and pitt and also houston. Going 3-5 is just saying if they do as I expect they'll beat Cleveland, St Louis and Arizona and lose all the Baltimore and Pitt games. they really wouldn't have to get lucky at all to go 3-5 the rest of the way. I'm hoping they can also win one of the 4 against the big boys and also beat Houston perhaps and have double digit wins which I am certainly pulling for after this nonsensical thread last year!

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Why thank you. I take this sentence as a backhanded compliment which translated means..."Horseofcourse, I'll give you this one. You weren't 100 percent insane for thinking marvin Lewis shouldn't have been fired after the 2010 season...perhaps only 98 percent!"

and no...if they were real lucky, they'd go 8-0 to end the season. If they were just lucky they'd go 5-3 getting 1 of 4 against bal and pitt and also houston. Going 3-5 is just saying if they do as I expect they'll beat Cleveland, St Louis and Arizona and lose all the Baltimore and Pitt games. they really wouldn't have to get lucky at all to go 3-5 the rest of the way. I'm hoping they can also win one of the 4 against the big boys and also beat Houston perhaps and have double digit wins which I am certainly pulling for after this nonsensical thread last year!

Let's see if they make the playoffs before you start patting yourself on the back.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Let's see if they make the playoffs before you start patting yourself on the back.

You're right. That is still probably a less than 50-50 shot with the 3 East teams and the two in the north. and a lot of their success is a mirage with close wins over INdy and Jax on their resume plus playing the NFC West is pretty much a guarantee of 3-1 in those games. that's a huge plus when playing those teams comes around. for now I'll gloat!

[3kings]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

You're right. That is still probably a less than 50-50 shot with the 3 East teams and the two in the north. and a lot of their success is a mirage with close wins over INdy and Jax on their resume plus playing the NFC West is pretty much a guarantee of 3-1 in those games. that's a huge plus when playing those teams comes around. for now I'll gloat!

Aren't you one of our State Penn fans? Excuse me I mean Penn State. How are you feeling about that debacle and cover-up?

[Danzig]

i didn't realize psu was a catholic school.

it'll be a shame to see joe pa go out this way, but i expect him to leave with what's coming out. heads should roll, and they will-already have started rolling.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by 3kings

Aren't you one of our State Penn fans? Excuse me I mean Penn State. How are you feeling about that debacle and cover-up?

It's the biggest disgrace in the history of college sports. Everyone should be gone starting with Paterno. I'm actually an alumnus of the school. I'm extremely embarrased as I loved the team and was a big fan of Paterno. I believe he knew something as early as the late 90s which was a big part of driving Sandusky out, and once Mcquery saw what he saw for Paterno and Curley and all of them to let that ass go is a disgrace to humanity. For anyone who has ever had kids to let this go as Paterno did and the school president and athletic director is horrid. I guess criminally Joe did nothing wrong, but the whole thing as someone who went there creeps me out to the extreme. The 2nd mile program was heavily promoted and lots of charity events going to it and now knowing it was a front for Sandusky's criminality is horrifying to me. I'm embarrased to be associated with the school. It's simply another in a long list in history of the coverup being as bad as the crime...in this case it is. Penn State copied the Roman Catholic Church hierarchy of just moving the criminal along and doing absolutley nothing simply to protect some crappy legend or something and children become a silly little distraction way, way down on the list. I certainly don't think Joe knew for the majority of Sandusky's tenure, but toward the end it appeared lots of crap was coming out and they absolutely knew which is why Sandusky "resigned"....I think McQueary became part of the firm and wanted to remain part of the firm forever. He's the one on the staff who actually saw it happen. the corporation rules and protecting it is first and foremost. Idiots. Just another example of the ruthlessness of our country and what it has become. the corporation is first and foremost the priority. Individual persons are simply crap. that is how Penn State viewed those minor children, not nearly as important as the corporation. citizen's United baby...that is the country we live in and this Penn State crap is all interelated with all that stuff. IF you have power in this country you can get away with absolutely anything at all. Joe Paterno will be in the press box Saturday. Book it and that's a shame. Dick Cheney will be smiling venom on some TV show selling books, and when his treachery is done Barack Obama will be pulling in a million per speech. Some dimwit selling weed on the street will go to prison. Cool.