World Series

somerfrost · #1 10-28-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 3kings

I agree if the same ball is hit to Hamilton, the Rangers would be World Series champions. Probably the best baseball game I have ever seen.

The sad thing about that play was the Rangers were playing their "prevent doubles" defense and were therefore much deeper than usual in the outfield. Cruz isn't a great defensive outfielder, his bat has been great so he deserves a bit of a pass, game of inches.

MaTH716 · #2 10-28-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

The sad thing about that play was the Rangers were playing their "prevent doubles" defense and were therefore much deeper than usual in the outfield. Cruz isn't a great defensive outfielder, his bat has been great so he deserves a bit of a pass, game of inches.

Cruz left the game after the 11th with a groin strain, I wonder if this is a condition that he has had for a while now. If that is the case, add that in to him being an average/below average outfielder, then Ron Washington has to take most of the blame here for leaving hinm out there in the 9th.

Cruz absolutely loafed for that ball like it was a can of corn and then jumped way to early as if he was afraid of the wall. That's a play that has to be made.

clyde · #3 10-28-2011, 11:59 AM

I have no idea who this guy is...guessing he hits well.That's todays ticket;as long as they can hit---we don't care.

Which s a big mistake.

somerfrost · #4 10-28-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde

I have no idea who this guy is...guessing he hits well.That's todays ticket;as long as they can hit---we don't care.

Which s a big mistake.

He hits very well....tied for most homers in playoffs all time. Like I said, game of inches still.

clyde · #5 10-28-2011, 12:36 PM

Drive in a run...give up a run--or more.

Phooey on that stuff.

Oh....thaaaanks!

3kings · #6 10-28-2011, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

The sad thing about that play was the Rangers were playing their "prevent doubles" defense and were therefore much deeper than usual in the outfield. Cruz isn't a great defensive outfielder, his bat has been great so he deserves a bit of a pass, game of inches.

Come on, you can't even believe this crap. There is no reason to not go full out for every ball, let alone the clinching out of the World Series. He's a good hitter so he doesn't have to try in the field? There is a difference between being a suspect outfielder and not giving your best.

Bigsmc · #7 10-28-2011, 01:17 PM

The game is on MLB Network now. Ending at 3pm eastern, so you can catch the last 45 min.

MaTH716 · #8 10-28-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc

The game is on MLB Network now. Ending at 3pm eastern, so you can catch the last 45 min.

That game (if not the whole series) is an instant classic. I have a feeling that it (and the series) will be replayed countless times on the MLB network this winter.

somerfrost · #9 10-28-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings

Come on, you can't even believe this crap. There is no reason to not go full out for every ball, let alone the clinching out of the World Series. He's a good hitter so he doesn't have to try in the field? There is a difference between being a suspect outfielder and not giving your best.

I agree that a professional has to go all out, the question seems to be whether he hurt himself going for the ball, something we don't know. If not then that effort is hard to explain...not saying that being a good hitter excuses him, I was merely stating the fact that he is indeed a good hitter. I don't think he qualifies as a goat based on that one play any more than Albert does based on his misplay in game 5. Bottom line, the Rangers bull pen blew two opportunities to close out the series.

MaTH716 · #10 10-28-2011, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

I agree that a professional has to go all out, the question seems to be whether he hurt himself going for the ball, something we don't know. If not then that effort is hard to explain...not saying that being a good hitter excuses him, I was merely stating the fact that he is indeed a good hitter. I don't think he qualifies as a goat based on that one play any more than Albert does based on his misplay in game 5. Bottom line, the Rangers bull pen blew two opportunities to close out the series.

The more I think about it and watch it, I'm guessing that he totally misjudged how hard the ball was hit. Throw in the fact that Freese batting from the right side, so the ball was also tailing away from Cruz. So he didn't get a great jump, loafed after it and was in a horrible position when the ball carried and tailed. To make matteres worse, the early jump cause him to be way out of position for when the ball caromed off the wall forcing him to go chasing it while everyone circled the bases.

I think injury had nothing to do with it, it was purely a bad read by Cruz.

somerfrost · #11 10-28-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

The more I think about it and watch it, I'm guessing that he totally misjudged how hard the ball was hit. Throw in the fact that Freese batting from the right side, so the ball was also tailing away from Cruz. So he didn't get a great jump, loafed after it and was in a horrible position when the ball carried and tailed. To make matteres worse, the early jump cause him to be way out of position for when the ball caromed off the wall forcing him to go chasing it while everyone circled the bases.

I think injury had nothing to do with it, it was purely a bad read by Cruz.

Yeah, probably exactly right.

GPK · #12 10-28-2011, 10:28 PM

I wonder if Buckner's old hiding place is available for Cruz?

Bigsmc · #13 10-29-2011, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK

I wonder if Buckner's old hiding place is available for Cruz?

It's only Texas, his crappy play with fade away.

If he were a Cub or Yankee or Red Sox....he'd be signing pics of himself 3" off the ground at card shows in 2036.

wiphan · #14 10-28-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings

Come on, you can't even believe this crap. There is no reason to not go full out for every ball, let alone the clinching out of the World Series. He's a good hitter so he doesn't have to try in the field? There is a difference between being a suspect outfielder and not giving your best.

I would have broke my TV if I was a Rangers fan and saw Cruz make that kind of effort with the series on the line. Being 1 strike away from winning the world series twice the Rangers better hope they don't blow it tonight. There is no reason why they can't crush Carpenter and the Cards bullpen has to be running out of gas. I am not a Rangers fan, but I HATE the Cards and I would love to see Ron Washington go nuts!