US comes up way short in health care again

[Danzig]

i want term limits so that congress isn't in constant re-election mode. people will be more willing to make tough decisions if they don't have the party leaders in their ears, warning them about losing seats come november.
there are other good people that can take a good persons seat. it applies to the president, i see no reason that it can't apply to senators and the house.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i want term limits so that congress isn't in constant re-election mode. people will be more willing to make tough decisions if they don't have the party leaders in their ears, warning them about losing seats come november.
there are other good people that can take a good persons seat. it applies to the president, i see no reason that it can't apply to senators and the house.

If we eliminate corporations being able to secretly throw unlimited funds into purchasing politicians, as Citizens United allowed (like other big boy countries) I think we'd end alot of that (like other big boy countries).

Go to the source of the trouble, don't just treat a symptom.

It's sad most US citizens don't even realize that Boehner changed the House rules, so that they only work 2 weeks out of 3 for us. But hey! No jobs bills, no foreclosure help, no unemployment benefit extensions, but the House has sent 7 anti-abortion, anti-women's rights bills to the Senate. They have the American people's backs, workin' for us ... because taking away abortion rights is the number one thing on most American's minds right now.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

If we eliminate corporations being able to secretly throw unlimited funds into purchasing politicians, as Citizens United allowed (like other big boy countries) I think we'd end alot of that (like other big boy countries).

Go to the source of the trouble, don't just treat a symptom.

It's sad most US citizens don't even realize that Boehner changed the House rules, so that they only work 2 weeks out of 3 for us. But hey! No jobs bills, no foreclosure help, no unemployment benefit extensions, but the House has sent 7 anti-abortion, anti-women's rights bills to the Senate. They have the American people's backs, workin' for us ... because taking away abortion rights is the number one thing on most American's minds right now.

re-election mode hasn't got anything to do with corporations. the party will support, or turn against, a politician depending on how much he follows party lines. if he goes rogue too much, like lieberman, the party withdraws its support and throws in with someone they feel will toe the line better. it's how they make their people 'behave'. they get seats, they want to keep them, and remain in power...so pols are 'urged' to walk the walk and talk the talk. you scratch my back, i'll scratch yours, we give you funding and support. just don't rock the boat. bi-partisanship gets lip service, but it all comes down to pr and votes.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

re-election mode hasn't got anything to do with corporations. the party will support, or turn against, a politician depending on how much he follows party lines. if he goes rogue too much, like lieberman, the party withdraws its support and throws in with someone they feel will toe the line better. it's how they make their people 'behave'. they get seats, they want to keep them, and remain in power...so pols are 'urged' to walk the walk and talk the talk. you scratch my back, i'll scratch yours, we give you funding and support. just don't rock the boat. bi-partisanship gets lip service, but it all comes down to pr and votes.

That's the old way. Corporations now have everything to do with elections. With Citizen's United, everything changed: corporations can put unlimited, secret funds anywhere they want into elections and politics. No ID, no trace, no limit on funding. Election results for the past few years are now determined by cash, and the SuperPACs.