Occupy Wall Street

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by jms62

Interested in everyones opinion on this...

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_new...nators-propose

It isn't the worst idea I have ever heard. No renting it out though. Would need to be occupied by the purchaser for a predetermined period. I also agree with the engineering degree etc grads getting to stay. MIT diploma = citizenship. Why let them leave.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

It isn't the worst idea I have ever heard. No renting it out though. Would need to be occupied by the purchaser for a predetermined period. I also agree with the engineering degree etc grads getting to stay. MIT diploma = citizenship. Why let them leave.

It's not like there are US Citizens looking for a job or anything.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

It's not like there are US Citizens looking for a job or anything.

Or places to, you know, live.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by jms62

It's not like there are US Citizens looking for a job or anything.

How many US citizens with a MIT or similar degree are looking for work? I'd guess not many.

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDOEn...layer_embedded

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

How many US citizens with a MIT or similar degree are looking for work? I'd guess not many.

I'd guess there's no unemployment at all, it's all being faked. Because, you know, why bother with any reality, when you can just make something up, or guess.

[Riot]

The one percent wants to change the law to shut down Occupy Wall Street.

www.dailykos.com

New York City law currently requires that privately owned public spaces, such as Zuccotti Park, stay open 24 hours a day. However, with the rise of the Occupy Wall Street movement, the wealthiest landlords in the city are seeking to change the law so that they would be able to shut down any and all permanent encampments:

Yeah, who could possibly be harmed by changing the law in this way? Maybe it's the massive protest movement that has set up a permanent encampment in a privately owned public space, but maybe it's someone else entirely. Really, it's anyone's guess.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'd guess there's no unemployment at all, it's all being faked. Because, you know, why bother with any reality, when you can just make something up, or guess.

How many US citizens with a MIT or similar degree are looking for work? I'd guess not many.
What is "made up" or isn't realistic? Do you seriously want to argue that people with advanced degrees from places like MIT are having trouble finding work? Or the foreign MIT grads are taking all the jobs away from the American MIT and Cal Tech grads?


So people who graduate from MIT are just like the general population? No difference at all? A person with an MIT degree isn't someone who we want to stay and work/research/invent **** here?

So we should just kick everyone who isnt an American out?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

How many US citizens with a MIT or similar degree are looking for work? I'd guess not many.
What is "made up" or isn't realistic? Do you seriously want to argue that people with advanced degrees from places like MIT are having trouble finding work?

25% unemployment nationally? Hell no, I'm sure none of them are having any trouble at all finding any work! Especially those "advanced degrees" - they couldn't possibly be part of the unemployed. Who'd "seriously" of thought it? That's obviously beyond absurd! And there is no point in, you know, actually checking real unemployment rates, because they certainly could not be unemployed.

What is "made up" or "isn't realistic" about a guess? Apparently nothing in your world.

The reality doesn't matter- just take an opinion and argue it. Who needs facts?

I have no idea how many MIT engineering grads are employed, or if they are less or more employed than the rest of the highly skilled but unemployed types of population.

But you guess that they are not unemployed, they couldn't possibly be, so that's good enough for me.

Or the foreign MIT grads are taking all the jobs away from the American MIT and Cal Tech grads?

So people who graduate from MIT are just like the general population? No difference at all? A person with an MIT degree isn't someone who we want to stay and work/research/invent **** here?

So we should just kick everyone who isnt an American out?

My, you do run on with your assumptions

How many US citizens with a MIT or similar degree are looking for work?

Why don't you look it up on google?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

25% unemployment nationally? Hell no, I'm sure none of them are having any trouble at all finding any work! Especially those "advanced degrees" - they couldn't possibly be part of the unemployed. Who'd "seriously" of thought it? That's obviously beyond absurd! And there is no point in, you know, actually checking real unemployment rates, because they certainly could not be unemployed.

What is "made up" or "isn't realistic" about a guess? Apparently nothing in your world.

The reality doesn't matter- just take an opinion and argue it. Who needs facts?

I have no idea how many MIT engineering grads are employed, or if they are less or more employed than the rest of the highly skilled but unemployed types of population.

But you guess that they are not unemployed, they couldn't possibly be, so that's good enough for me.



My, you do run on with your assumptions



Why don't you look it up on google?

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/2144...e-graduate.htm

Yeah its my "opinion" that MIT grads dont have much trouble finding work. I mean do you seriously have a learning disabilty? Has Dailykos.com melted your brain to the point where you now deny that the unemployment numbers don't really effect people like MIT grads? Or do the 1000 or so MIT graduates take away too many of the 99%'s jobs for you?

In my opinion Albert Pujols is going to be signed to a very lucrative contract after the season. In my opinion the winner of the Breeders Cup Marathon will not be a serious horse of the year contender. In my opinion MIT grads dont have much trouble finding work after graduation. Only you would find fault with any of these 'assumptions' or opinions.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

How many US citizens with a MIT or similar degree are looking for work? I'd guess not many.

How many engineers laid off the las 10 years? My guess millions. It is clear where you stand on the issues and it is to be expected from someone in an industry that is known to use and abuse cheap undocumented foriegn labor. And save us the no American wants it bull. There would be at the right price. Funny how alot of you uber conseratives are all about the free markets except the market for thier own employees.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by jms62

How many engineers laid off the las 10 years? My guess millions. It is clear where you stand on the issues and it is to be expected from someone in an industry that is known to use and abuse cheap undocumented foriegn labor. And save us the no American wants it bull. There would be at the right price. Funny how alot of you uber conseratives are all about the free markets except the market for thier own employees.

Every job would find takers at the "right price". What is the "right price? Would people work the lettuce fields for 150k a year? Would people bus tables for 75k a year? Funny how twits like you "know" everything about horseracing when you know virtually nothing. So are you going to take the stance that MIT grads are all engineers and that they are having trouble finding employment too?

The unemployment level for thse with 4 year college degrees are still much lower than the general population. An MIT degree is much more valuable than an ordinary degree.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Every job would find takers at the "right price". What is the "right price? Would people work the lettuce fields for 150k a year? Would people bus tables for 75k a year? Funny how twits like you "know" everything about horseracing when you know virtually nothing. So are you going to take the stance that MIT grads are all engineers and that they are having trouble finding employment too?

The unemployment level for thse with 4 year college degrees are still much lower than the general population. An MIT degree is much more valuable than an ordinary degree.

Typical fuking trainer hating on the customer. You are so out of line.
Are you saying that there are no undocumented employees on the backside?
http://my.firedoglake.com/rayne/2011...al-immigrants/
http://www.alipac.us/article-print-6003.html
http://www.paulickreport.com/news/th...ented-workers/
I don't proclaim to know everything about your business unlike you who knows everything about the economy yet spends most of his day parked under a horses ass. Now you are into name calling and getting personal, if I were you I'd focus on Occupy the Winners Circle instead of acting like a know it all on this board.. You realize that there are folks on here that read your sh*it and make the decision never to use a pompus ass know it all as their trainer.
Now back to the MIT issue do you really think for one second that ONLY folks with a degree from MIT will be granted a VISA?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by jms62

You realize that there are folks on here that read your sh*it and make the decision never to use a pompus ass know it all as their trainer.
?

I call bullshit.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by jms62

Typical fuking trainer hating on the customer. You are so out of line.
Are you saying that there are no undocumented employees on the backside?
http://my.firedoglake.com/rayne/2011...al-immigrants/
http://www.alipac.us/article-print-6003.html
http://www.paulickreport.com/news/th...ented-workers/
I don't proclaim to know everything about your business unlike you who knows everything about the economy yet spends most of his day parked under a horses ass. Now you are into name calling and getting personal, if I were you I'd focus on Occupy the Winners Circle instead of acting like a know it all on this board.. You realize that there are folks on here that read your sh*it and make the decision never to use a pompus ass know it all as their trainer.
Now back to the MIT issue do you really think for one second that ONLY folks with a degree from MIT will be granted a VISA?

You are not my customer, you are nameless, faceless troll. If people wouldnt send me a horse based on posts on an internet board they probably wouldnt be very good clients anyway. Your innocent act is laughable considering you are the one who is always taking shots at my business and me personally which works for you since no one knows who the hell you are or what you do. You dont know anything about me or my business. Grow up and discuss the issues without trying to run me down or interject insults whenever possible.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

How many engineers laid off the las 10 years? My guess millions. It is clear where you stand on the issues and it is to be expected from someone in an industry that is known to use and abuse cheap undocumented foriegn labor. And save us the no American wants it bull. There would be at the right price. Funny how alot of you uber conseratives are all about the free markets except the market for thier own employees.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44981628

'Many of the Americans who have ventured out into the fields to pick crops have quit after a single day, telling farmers the work is too hard and not worth the pay.'



...jms, you obviously wouldn't shun a job because it's your belief no one would. that's simply not the case. undocumented workers come here for jobs that are available, at pay that's better than they can get elsewhere. many who live here on the other hand think such work is demeaning-which is why the jobs are available in the first place.
why do you think there really hasn't been anything done to stem the tide of illegals? i guarantee you we could stop it. raids are performed-on places paying under the table, thus no money to the feds. the ones who pay, and send money for ss-they don't get raided.

[dino]

Now just what does Occupy Wall Street have to do with unemployment? If it had anything to do with unemployment they wouldn't be protesting because it would make thier Liberal/Socialist savior look bad.
No only did the BILLIONS in job creation money not create any jobs but he also gave BILLIONS to Wall Street to bail them out.
Just curious if there is anyone out there that actually things this bum has done a good job?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dino

Now just what does Occupy Wall Street have to do with unemployment? If it had anything to do with unemployment they wouldn't be protesting because it would make thier Liberal/Socialist savior look bad.
No only did the BILLIONS in job creation money not create any jobs but he also gave BILLIONS to Wall Street to bail them out.
Just curious if there is anyone out there that actually things this bum has done a good job?

He who? George Bush who started the whole bail out Wallstreet fiasco? To answer your question vis a vis Obama. I think he has done an awful job. I expected more yet got another career politician.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44981628

'Many of the Americans who have ventured out into the fields to pick crops have quit after a single day, telling farmers the work is too hard and not worth the pay.'



...jms, you obviously wouldn't shun a job because it's your belief no one would. that's simply not the case. undocumented workers come here for jobs that are available, at pay that's better than they can get elsewhere. many who live here on the other hand think such work is demeaning-which is why the jobs are available in the first place.
why do you think there really hasn't been anything done to stem the tide of illegals? i guarantee you we could stop it. raids are performed-on places paying under the table, thus no money to the feds. the ones who pay, and send money for ss-they don't get raided.

I am not saying that. I am saying that the likes of those uber conservatives crying free market have no problem taking advantage of H1B's and using illegals vs paying a rate that would attract American Citizens. Free Market only when it suits them , eventually someone will take the job and it wouldn't be at the absurd levels quoted above by our resident Economist.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

I am not saying that. I am saying that the likes of those uber conservatives crying free market have no problem taking advantage of H1B's and using illegals vs paying a rate that would attract American Citizens. Free Market only when it suits them , eventually someone will take the job and it wouldn't be at the absurd levels quoted above by our resident Economist.

are you saying only hib's work at the track? i don't think so. but anyone who takes that job is ok, but if an hib, they're being taken advantage of? no, not at all. it's a better situation than at home, which is why they do it. they aren't forced to accept those jobs.