Occupy Wall Street

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

They were law abiding and peaceful in Boston, where the police attacked and beat the Veterans for Peace, while destroying their flags - nobody raised a finger against the police as they were hauled to jail.

They've always been law-abiding and peaceful in NY for the month so far. Even in the face of police brutality. Why would you think they would not be?

The plan is complete peaceful resistance at this stage. Timing is good, it can be televised live on the morning shows. Bloomberg will suffer, OWS is too popular with the public.

Lec Walesa is going to join them, but nobody knows for sure what time he'll get to New York.

peaceful in boston, but maybe not completely law abiding?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...bIcL_blog.html

they were told repeatedly to leave one portion of the area that they had encamped on, and were arrested for trespassing. there's mention of 150k in shrubs being damaged as well.

[somerfrost]

New York confrontation avoided, at least for now, as park cleaning postponed. Somebody showed common sense, this could have been nasty.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

New York confrontation avoided, at least for now, as park cleaning postponed. Somebody showed common sense, this could have been nasty.

The demonstrators scrubbed the park themselves, Russell Simmons sent a letter to Bloomberg saying he would personally pay for the costs of cleaning the park and was there with them this am, a few other celebrities showed up this am to link arms, Lec Walesa is joining them in the park ...

... damn, this thing called "freedom" that our citizens have just won't go way. How inconvenient for some

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

peaceful in boston, but maybe not completely law abiding?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...bIcL_blog.html

they were told repeatedly to leave one portion of the area that they had encamped on, and were arrested for trespassing. there's mention of 150k in shrubs being damaged as well.

Yet, amazingly, that "shrub damage" didn't really exist in the light of day.

Yes, they were arrested for trespassing in a public park (the second park they occupied) as an act of civil disobedience. A minor offense. If you watch the multiple videos available, the demonstrators were completely peaceful, as the Boston Police aggressively attacked the Veterans for Peace with batons and beating.

There will always be a few outliers of crazy trouble makers, but it is undeniable that these protests, with their thousands of protesters, have been overwhelmingly peaceful and non-violent, the protesters themselves are not tolerating any violence, they are calling for peace, and always have been. The outliers are not supported by the protesters, and now the protesters are having the problem of trouble makers infiltrating them.

Face it: Faux News and Hannity have been overtly lying about the "sex, drugs, lewdness" crap in New York, for example: that park has been filled with police for the month it's been occupied, there are live video feeds from it 24-7 available on the internet, there are thousands of cell phone video cameras there, and if that existed that means the police who are in the park daily, walking through it, are ignoring it.

The problem with the media, who have been ignoring this, and the pundits, who have been yapping senselessly about something they are clueless about, is that social media and live cameras have taken over their job. The protesters are putting the news out there themselves, as in the middle east. That's pretty cool! It exposes the huge defects we have in our pathetic, non-journalist, lazy and even lying media.

[Cannon Shell]

In Philadelphia the protests are much smaller than other places and yet it is still costing taxpayers 80k+ a day in police overtime and sanatation costs.

Oh gawd maybe 100 million in cost for cities worldwide to handle protesters f.ucked off about arguably 50 trillion being robbed from the masses.

Priorities...we still don't have 'em.

[Antitrust32]

I don't understand why anyone would have a problem with these protests.

It's a right granted by our most sacred document and it's not like the government and wall street haven't been bending over the American people the past many years.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I don't understand why anyone would have a problem with these protests.

It's a right granted by our most sacred document and it's not like the government and wall street haven't been bending over the American people the past many years.

Saturday is an international day for Occupy Wall Street (it's catching on in Europe, too) - you gonna go locally?

There have been a few people in downtown Lexington - not exactly a big deal here

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Saturday is an international day for Occupy Wall Street (it's catching on in Europe, too) - you gonna go locally?

There have been a few people in downtown Lexington - not exactly a big deal here

i dont know whats going on in this neck of the woods regarding the OWS.

But saturday is 18 holes of Golf, some dressage crap, and football day for me.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Oh gawd maybe 100 million in cost for cities worldwide to handle protesters f.ucked off about arguably 50 trillion being robbed from the masses.

Priorities...we still don't have 'em.

"Pay for your own damn bailouts - tax all financial transactions"

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

In Philadelphia the protests are much smaller than other places and yet it is still costing taxpayers 80k+ a day in police overtime and sanatation costs.

Well, it's "the taxpayers" that are protesting, as is their civil right under the Constitution and laws of this land, so how is that a problem?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, it's "the taxpayers" that are protesting, as is their civil right under the Constitution and laws of this land, so how is that a problem?

Wrong, the "taxpayers" are at work. Not sitting in a park complaining.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Wrong, the "taxpayers" are at work. Not sitting in a park complaining.

Funny. Alot of the protesters being interviewed have jobs, but have taken time off to attend the protests.

I guess making uneducated blanket assumptions about them is easier than paying attention.

Yes, still in the, " ... then they ridicule you ... " stage.

Funny: I posted three pictures and several videos:

one showing a person holding a check, protesting and marching with hundreds of others regarding the ending this year of one specific NY city tax giveaway that only benefits millionaires on up, but will cut city income by billions and put the onus on others to make up that tax amount

one showing nurses (employed people) demanding specific transaction taxes on two types of financial transactions on Wall Street ("pay for your own bailouts")

one showing a young person wanting repealed laws that protected us from financial malfeasance, such as Glass-Steagall, to be reinstated

Multiple videos showing protesters having good grasp of the economic specifics that have destroyed our economy, and what needs to change to save it.

Yet they are still being classified by some as unemployed neer-do-wells. Dirty effing hippy types. Wow. That's really sad, that some in this country are trying to ridicule the very people that are fighting for things in this country that will better their lives.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Funny. Alot of the protesters being interviewed have jobs, but have taken time off to attend the protests.

I guess making uneducated blanket assumptions about them is easier than paying attention.

Yes, still in the, " ... then they ridicule you ... " stage.

Attending protests is not the same thing as "occupying" in a park and being a general nuisance. I am all for protests especially this version of the government, but taking over a park in the middle of the city is a different story. Our local campers were dispersed last night, glad to see it. They have from 5am until 11pm to peacefully protest to their hearts content and I say good for them.

Dismiss the educated protestors because you see one or two youtube clips of the dumb ones the msm seeks out for interviews.

Of course it's to be expected that most Americans would be dismissive of the protestors. We've been conditioned to obey and heaven forbid we focus on real issues instead of A-Rod or Tim Tebow.

Get back to the important s.hit, lemmings!! Hero worship and fast food has made you mildly retarded.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, it's "the taxpayers" that are protesting, as is their civil right under the Constitution and laws of this land, so how is that a problem?

It is a problem because the cities are already broke. If you complain about services being cut then directly lead to more being cut because of your own actions then well then there you have it. Personal responsibility remember?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is a problem because the cities are already broke. If you complain about services being cut then directly lead to more being cut because of your own actions then well then there you have it. Personal responsibility remember?

Then why are you ridiculing the people in the picture legally protesting a $5 billion dollar tax giveaway to millionaires on up in NY city?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Then why are you ridiculing the people in the picture legally protesting a $5 billion dollar tax giveaway to millionaires on up in NY city?

A 5 billion dollar tax giveaway from whom?

[Danzig]

i completely agree that protesters have every right to be heard. i agree with much of the thinking going on that it's ridiculous that the taxpayers are bailing out companies who then pay scads of money to the brass-who were generally the cause of requiring the bailouts. if they were doing so good, and worth so much, you'd think they wouldn't have had to go begging. meanwhile, the commoners keep paying for stuff like that, while watching their jobs and standard of living go down the tubes.

that said, protests can't be allowed to spill into areas not meant for such gatherings, and certainly shouldn't cause damage-whether to shrubs or other city property. after all, taxpayers surely don't want to cost themselves money.

and i have to admit, i always view organized protests a bit cynically, having grown up near d.c., where they hire protesters by the hour and provide signage and catchy slogans.

i'd appreciate a 'taking back' of our govt-i think our pols have become beholden to a few groups, to corporations, to special interests, and don't pay enough attention to who pays all the bills.